[urn] What is holding up the LEX URN namespace registration?
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Subject: [urn] What is holding up the LEX URN namespace registration?
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"Hakala, Juha E" <juha.hakala@helsinki.fi> writes: > The status of urn:lex request is unclear to me as well. Version 13 was > published ages ago > (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-spinosa-urn-lex/) but I don't > know if it addressed the concerns Dale brought up in an email sent > April 30 2018. It seemed at that point that we were very close to > approving the request, so it is unfortunate that the process was > stalled. We should contact Enrico Francesconi and tell him what he > needs to do to finish the work. He did ask us the status of the > process last October, but I don't know if he got an answer. My latest opinion regarding the urn:lex proposal was approval on 5 June 2018: From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) To: Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2018 22:28:24 -0400 Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/VpshWLYPcRfqy__xqsH5wz_BO-A> Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Cc: barryleiba@computer.org, aamelnikov@fastmail.fm, pierluigi.spinosa@gmail.com, L.Svensson@dnb.de, caterina.lupo@gmail.com, urn@ietf.org Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it> writes: > As for the issue you raised about the maintenance of the registry of > jurisdiction codes, we agree at this stage to be ITTIG-CNR the > Registrar. In this respect we propose the following changes: The changes you propose seem satisfactory to me. I posted this comment on 11 Dec 2018: From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) To: Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 22:13:13 -0500 Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/71un9dFHWjatiVVsLND0HRKiC8s> Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Cc: urn@ietf.org, pierluigi.spinosa@gmail.com, aamelnikov@fastmail.fm, L.Svensson@dnb.de, caterina.lupo@gmail.com, stpeter@stpeter.im, barryleiba@computer.org Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it> writes: > being quite a long time since the last communication (June 2018), we > were wondering whether any action from our side is needed before to > proceed with the so called "experimental" registration of the URN:LEX > namespace. Sorry, we've dropped the ball here. As far as I can tell from reviewing the discussion at https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/maillist.html, we have consensus to register the namespace based on draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13, but we haven't actually notified IANA of that. Who is it that notifies IANA? Then there was this message on 12 Dec 2018: Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex To: Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>, "Dale R. Worley" <worley@ariadne.com> Cc: Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>, pierluigi.spinosa@gmail.com, L.Svensson@dnb.de, caterina.lupo@gmail.com, urn@ietf.org From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 07:39:20 -0700 In my role as URN review team lead, I will contact the IANA. [quoted material deleted - DRW] Followed up by this on the same day: To: Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>, "Dale R. Worley" <worley@ariadne.com> From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 10:30:25 -0700 Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/z6sx-t9fCVZ5dfCKOEbIrHe6jis> Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Cc: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>, Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>, pierluigi.spinosa@gmail.com, L.Svensson@dnb.de, caterina.lupo@gmail.com, urn@ietf.org Actually, I'll coordinate with Alexey, since he's the sponsoring Area Director. [quoted material deleted - DRW] And then this on 4 Mar 2019: To: Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it> From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 18:41:42 -0700 Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/2ZNAplit_W8dwQmALHh-8zLR4dk> Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Cc: urn@ietf.org, Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>, LUPO Caterina <caterina.lupo@gmail.com>, Pierluigi Spinosa <pierluigi.spinosa@gmail.com> As far as I know, this Internet-Draft is intended to be published as an informational RFC, in which case the IANA registration would happen through normal processes before publication. However, the datatracker page indicates that Alexey needs to follow up (specifically it appears that he needs to create the writeup for balloting by the IESG). Alexey, please let us know if we're mistaken about the next steps for this registration. [quoted material deleted - DRW] Then I have record of a few similar messages between the review group and our AD: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/g8eC8QR6Lv1jmtgDT-yCApCvUIQ> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/6_hLnPj9pXjM3cV-qSPGY_xkCy4> On 17 Oct 2019, I sent this inquiry to our AD: From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) To: aamelnikov@fastmail.fm Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 22:00:33 -0400 Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/AtoVfxYg_b7Ho-RaRGcft0CVWxg> Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex Cc: Enrico Francesconi <enrico.francesconi@gmail.com>, pierluigi.spinosa@gmail.com, caterina.lupo@gmail.com, stpeter@mozilla.com, urn@ietf.org Alexey, Can you get us (urn@ietf.org) an update on the processing of draft-spinosa-urn-lex? As far as I can tell, the URN group has been satisfied with this registration/I-D since last December, but its processing has been stalled for reasons that are obscure. I understand that you are the supervising Area Director of this activity, so on behalf of the URN group, I am requesting guidance from you as to the next step for completing this work. After that date, I can find no record of e-mail from our AD, either to me personally or the URN mailing list. However, checking with https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/, I see that Alexey is no longer an ART AD, which may account for why things have gone awry. Who is responsible for the next step? Dale
- [urn] What is holding up the LEX URN namespace re… worley
- Re: [urn] What is holding up the LEX URN namespac… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [urn] What is holding up the LEX URN namespac… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [urn] What is holding up the LEX URN namespac… Enrico Francesconi
- Re: [urn] What is holding up the LEX URN namespac… Peter Saint-Andre