Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc7525bis-00
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From: tom petch <daedulus@btconnect.com>
To: Valery Smyslov <valery@smyslov.net>, "uta@ietf.org" <uta@ietf.org>
Cc: 'Yaron Sheffer' <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com>, "uta-chairs@ietf.org" <uta-chairs@ietf.org>, 'Ralph Holz' <ralph.holz@gmail.com>, 'Peter Saint-Andre' <stpeter@mozilla.com>
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Subject: Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc7525bis-00
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What is the point of rfc7525bis? Why do we need it? It seems to me that RFC7525 is a good set of recommendations and little has changed, in practical terms, since it was produced, although cryptanalysts can find weaknesses therein --- New Outlook Express and Windows Live Mail replacement - get it here: https://www.oeclassic.com/ . The one change I am aware of is that the TLS WG has produced TLS 1.3 - I follow the TLS WG mailing list - but so what? TLS 1.3 failed to meet one key requirement and I am unclear whether or not TLS 1.3 will gain widespread use in the Internet, with HTTP, SMTP and such like. I see TLS 1.2 as being adequate for most purposes for some time to come so my concern is that rfc5575bis will simply be an endorsement of the work of the TLS WG - 1.3 is great, ditch everything else - leading to further fragmentation of the protocols. So, I am against adoption until it is clear that the I-D will endorse TLS 1.2 as adequate for most purposes. After all, the TLS WG has yet to propose an I-D 'TLS 1.2 - Die, Die, Die' Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: Valery Smyslov <valery@smyslov.net> To: <uta@ietf.org> Cc: 'Yaron Sheffer' <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com>, <uta-chairs@ietf.org>, 'Ralph Holz' <ralph.holz@gmail.com>, 'Peter Saint-Andre' <stpeter@mozilla.com> Sent: 26/04/2020 10:35:30 Subject: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc7525bis-00 ________________________________________________________________________________ Hi, during the last virtual interim meeting the draft draft-sheffer-uta-bcp195bis-00 was presented and the authors asked for its adoption. The general feeling in the room was in favor of the adoption, however the authors were asked to rename it to *-rfc7525-bis. The authors have renamed the draft and asked the chairs for its adoption. Since our responsible AD thinks agrees that this work is within the charter of the WG, the chairs are issuing a formal call for adoption to confirm the results we had at the meeting. This message starts a two weeks call for adoption of the draft-sheffer-uta-rfc7525bis-00 draft. The call will end up 10 May 2020. Please send your opinions to the list before this date. Please if possible include any reasons supporting your opinion. If you support this adoption, please indicate whether you are ready to review this draft if it becomes a WG document. Regards, Leif & Valery. _______________________________________________ Uta mailing list Uta@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/uta
- [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc7525… Valery Smyslov
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… John R. Levine
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… tom petch
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Ralph Holz
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… John Levine
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… tom petch
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Ralph Holz
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Sean Turner
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Keith Moore
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… ned+uta
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Keith Moore
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Keith Moore
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Jeremy Harris
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Keith Moore
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… John Levine
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Keith Moore
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… tom petch
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Valery Smyslov
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… John Levine
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Jim Fenton
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Keith Moore
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc… Valery Smyslov