Re: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc7525bis-00

On 27/04/2020 10:03, tom petch wrote:

> What is the point of rfc7525bis?  Why do we need it?
>
> It seems to me that RFC7525 is a good set of recommendations and little has changed, in practical terms, since it was produced, although cryptanalysts can find weaknesses therein
It doesn't address TLS 1.3 and recommendations for it are going to be 
different.(draft-sheffer-uta-rfc7525bis-00 probably doesn't include TLS 
1.3 text, but the plan is that it will.)
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> The one change I am aware of is that the TLS WG has produced TLS 1.3 - I follow the TLS WG mailing list - but so what?  TLS 1.3 failed to meet one key requirement and I am unclear whether or not TLS 1.3 will gain widespread use in the Internet, with HTTP, SMTP and such like.  I see TLS 1.2 as being adequate for most purposes for some time to come so my concern is that rfc5575bis will simply be an endorsement of the work of the TLS WG - 1.3 is great, ditch everything else - leading to further fragmentation of the protocols.
>
> So, I am against adoption until it is clear that the I-D will endorse TLS 1.2 as adequate for most purposes.  After all, the TLS WG has yet to propose an I-D 'TLS 1.2 - Die, Die, Die'
>
> Tom Petch
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Valery Smyslov <valery@smyslov.net>
> To: <uta@ietf.org>
> Cc: 'Yaron Sheffer' <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com>, <uta-chairs@ietf.org>, 'Ralph Holz' <ralph.holz@gmail.com>, 'Peter Saint-Andre' <stpeter@mozilla.com>
> Sent: 26/04/2020 10:35:30
> Subject: [Uta] Adoption call for draft-sheffer-uta-rfc7525bis-00
> ________________________________________________________________________________
>
> Hi,
>
> during the last  virtual interim meeting the draft
> draft-sheffer-uta-bcp195bis-00 was presented and the authors asked for its
> adoption.
> The general feeling in the room was in favor of the adoption, however
> the authors were asked to rename it to *-rfc7525-bis.
> The authors have renamed the draft and asked the chairs for its adoption.
> Since our responsible AD thinks agrees that this work is within the charter
> of the WG, the chairs are issuing a formal call for adoption
> to confirm the results we had at the meeting.
>
> This message starts a two weeks call for adoption of the
> draft-sheffer-uta-rfc7525bis-00 draft.
> The call will end up 10 May 2020. Please send your opinions to the list
> before this date.
>
> Please if possible include any reasons supporting your opinion. If you
> support this adoption,
> please indicate whether you are ready to review this draft if it becomes a
> WG document.
>
> Regards,
> Leif & Valery.
>
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