Re: [Uta] Second WGLC for draft-ietf-uta-rfc7525bis-05

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: "Olle E. Johansson" <oej@edvina.net>, Valery Smyslov <valery@smyslov.net>
CC: "uta@ietf.org" <uta@ietf.org>, Leif Johansson <leifj@mnt.se>, "draft-ietf-uta-rfc7525bis@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-uta-rfc7525bis@ietf.org>, "uta-chairs@ietf.org" <uta-chairs@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Uta] Second WGLC for draft-ietf-uta-rfc7525bis-05
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Subject: Re: [Uta] Second WGLC for draft-ietf-uta-rfc7525bis-05
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  *   I’ve tried to register ALPN for SIP/2.0 for a long time now, but fail to get responses and confusing ones.

I don’t recall seeing the request, and I am one of the designated experts for the TLS registries.  I wonder where you asked?  Tls-reg-review@iana.org<mailto:Tls-reg-review@iana.org> is the place to write to.  That address doesn’t seem to be written down anywhere well-known.


  *   It seems unclear whether we need to write new RFCs for SIP in order to get a registration, but that seems wrong to me.

The requirement is that somewhere there be a stable document.  Since they don’t expire, an internet-draft is sufficient.  More likely, if the SIP documents talk about TLS, and ideally mention ALPN, that’s enough, just mention whatever docs in your email.


  *   It must be much easier to get this done.

Sorry for your frustration.  Perhaps the current draft could add a sentence giving the email address?