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Re: [Uta] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-uta-rfc7525bis-09

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Fri, 08 July 2022 18:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Uta] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-uta-rfc7525bis-09
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On 7/8/22 9:37 AM, Thomas Fossati wrote:
> Hi Cullen, thanks very much for the review.
> 
> Just a quick comment on the PS vs BCP point:

Ditto.

> On Friday, 8 July 2022 at 15:18, Cullen Jennings via Datatracker 
> <noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
> 
>> [snip]
> 
>> I don't think BCP is the appropriate status for this. I think it
>> should be PS.  It explicitly says that is not trying to change
>> existent advice in existing RFC and theses will need other RFC to
>> "modernize" them.
> 
> RFC 8996 (which is BCP) has already done the heavy lifting for us.
> 
> We are not saying anything new here.

RFC 7525 (which of course 7525bis replaces) was published as a BCP back 
in 2015 and is cited as such by 100+ RFCs:

https://www.arkko.com/tools/allstats/citations-rfc7525.html

It seems strange for 7525bis to be published as Proposed Standard given 
that 7525 was a BCP.

Peter

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