Re: [Uta] Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05.txt> (Updated TLS Server Identity Check Procedure for Email Related Protocols) to Proposed Standard
Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> Sat, 21 November 2015 14:41 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Uta] Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05.txt> (Updated TLS Server Identity Check Procedure for Email Related Protocols) to Proposed Standard
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Hi Russ, Thank you for your comments. On 20/11/2015 21:36, Russ Housley wrote: > I support this document going forward. Below I suggest four improvements to the document. > > (1) In Introduction says: > > Note that this document doesn't apply to use of TLS in MTA-to-MTA > SMTP. > > Can this be enhanced to include a pointer to where this can be found? Currently this is discussed in draft-friedl-uta-smtp-mta-certs, but this is not a WG document, so I would rather not have a pointer. > (2) The next paragraph in the Introduction says: > > The main goal of the document is to provide consistent TLS server > identity verification procedure across multiple email related > protocols. > > Since this is a standards-track document, I think it would be better to say: > > This document provides a consistent TLS server identity > verification procedure across multiple email related protocols. Changed, thank you. > (3) Section 2 does a lot by reference, which is fine. I think it would help the reader to duplicate a bit of context from RFC 6125, in particular repeating the definitions of CN-ID, DNS-ID, and SRV-ID. Yes, I struggled with this as well. This would be lots of cut & pasted text. > (4) Section 3 needs to state first that the certificate passes certification path validation as described in Section 6 of RFC 5280, and second passes the email-specific rules in this section. Yes, this was implied. Added to my copy.
- [Uta] Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-… The IESG
- Re: [Uta] Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-ce… Russ Housley
- Re: [Uta] Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-ce… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Uta] Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-ce… Leif Johansson
- Re: [Uta] Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-ce… Russ Housley
- Re: [Uta] Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-ce… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Uta] Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-ce… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Uta] Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-ce… stephen.farrell
- Re: [Uta] Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-ce… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Uta] Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-ce… Julien ÉLIE
- Re: [Uta] Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-ce… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Uta] Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-ce… Leif Johansson
- Re: [Uta] UTA: Server certificate management (Re:… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Uta] UTA: Server certificate management (Re:… John Levine
- Re: [Uta] UTA: Server certificate management (Re:… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Uta] UTA: Server certificate management (Re:… John Levine
- Re: [Uta] UTA: Server certificate management (Re:… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Uta] UTA: Server certificate management (Re:… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Uta] UTA: Server certificate management (Re:… John R Levine
- Re: [Uta] UTA: Server certificate management (Re:… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Uta] UTA: Server certificate management (Re:… John Levine
- Re: [Uta] UTA: Server certificate management (Re:… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Uta] UTA: Server certificate management (Re:… John R Levine
- Re: [Uta] UTA: Server certificate management (Re:… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Uta] UTA: Server certificate management (Re:… John R Levine
- Re: [Uta] UTA: Server certificate management (Re:… Alexey Melnikov