Re: [Uta] UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05.txt>)

"John Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Tue, 01 December 2015 19:59 UTC

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>> What's to keep an evil MITM from putting dukhovni.org as a
>> SRV-ID in its submit and imaps certificate?
>
>The trusted CA presumably, if it is not negligent.

How is the trusted CA supposed to figure out which domains it should
allow as SRV-ID?  

Here's a concrete real life example: I have a pop and imap server
called imap.iecc.com.  (It even has a signed certificate.)  You're the
CA, what SRV-IDs will you allow?  You can ask me any questions you
want, but keep in mind that my answers are not always accurate.

>> >I am not aware of any adoption of RFC 6186.  Are there are any MUAs
>> >actually doing RFC 6186 SRV lookups?  If there are none, is it worth
>> >debating?
>> 
>> In the lack of plausible alternatives, I think so.
>
>Well, the plausible alternatives are explicit static configuration
>of the server names by the user, per instruction from the provider.

I understand that's how a user configures her MTA, but you'll have to
lay out in detail how the slip of paper in the user's hand tells a CA
what SRV-IDs they should have allowed in the server's certificate.

R's,
John