Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Packets with Extension Headers
Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org> Sat, 19 September 2020 09:49 UTC
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Packets with Extension Headers
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> On 19 Sep 2020, at 09:19, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> wrote: > > Hello, Gyan, > >> On 19/9/20 01:06, Gyan Mishra wrote: >> Hi Fernando >> In this draft can we talk add point about the catch 22 situation described in RFC 7045 excerpt below bottom of introduction: >> I think this issue is critical to the overall issue with processing of EHs and operators filtering EHs in some cases unnecessarily. > > What, specifically, would you like us to say about it? > > Note: RFC6564 has not (and will not) improve the situation in this respect. Since EHs share the same namespece as "upper layer protocols", then, in order for a middlebox to know it can parse a header as in the RFC6564 format, it has to now that the corresponding "protocol number" identifies an EH (as opposed to an upper layer protocol). > > RFC6564 would have been useful only if we had closed the door to the definition of new EHs with a new "protocol number", and had specified that any new EHs would share the same protocol number ("XX", to have been assigned by IANA at the time RFC6564 was published). > Right, but only if the assumption that middleboxes would allow arbitrary headers in between network and transport is true. That seems unlikely to me. Ole > > > _______________________________________________ > v6ops mailing list > v6ops@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops
- [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Packets … Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… otroan
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… otroan
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Tom Herbert
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Tom Herbert
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Joseph Touch
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Tom Herbert
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Joseph Touch
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fred Baker
- [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Packets … tom petch
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… tom petch
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… tom petch
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Pack… Gyan Mishra