Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Packets with Extension Headers

Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> Tue, 22 September 2020 13:31 UTC

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From: Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 09:30:52 -0400
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Operational Implications of IPv6 Packets with Extension Headers
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On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 6:53 PM Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> wrote:

> Gyan,
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> On 19/9/20 16:52, Gyan Mishra wrote:
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> >     In that sense, RFC6564 is unable to make any difference. Whether
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> >     providing such feature (common EH format for all EHs, from now on)
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> >     would
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> >     have made a difference, is hard to tell... But I'd argue it wouldn't.
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> >      So bottom line we don’t think there is any operational impact
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> > related to eh drops due to operators filtering based on the catch-22
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> > issue regarding hardware not being able to support the new EH TLV based
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> > standard RFC 6584 to support “new extension headers” supporting new TLV
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> > as we believe that new are maybe few and far between that bucket that
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> > can impact fast path eh processing.
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> I'm just saying that I don't think RFC6564 will have any sort of impact,
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> for worse or better.
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> > Based on the above we believe that
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> > we are in that same boat as with eh headers use the same protocol number
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> > name space thus impossible to have a complete list so not being able to
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> > be processed.
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> No.
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> I'm saying that you cannot parse something that you don't know what it
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> is. RFC6564 does not change that in any way.
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> Gyan>. I think we are saying the same thing related to unknown eh headers
> using either protocol number name space and RFC 6564 does not improve or
> make it worse.  Can we add a normative reference to RFC 7045 related to eh
> processing issues with unknown headers types in protocol number name space
> and that RFC 6564 does not improve the situation.
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> > Also from that perspective as well is not a reason for operators to drop
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> > ant eh and an idea is to maybe just explicitly permit all the original
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> > RFC 8200 standard eh and new RFC 6584 eh headers as a recommendation to
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> > not just drop hbh and other headers that could end up being processed in
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> > the slow path.  So instead of doing a drop xyz header followed by a
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> > permit any you explicitly permit all RFC 8200 and RFC 6584 headers If
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> > your platform supports.
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> Please see draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-packet-drops. :-)


   Gyan> ok

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