[v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-01
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From: "Fred Baker (fred)" <fred@cisco.com>
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Subject: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-01
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> DS-Lite [RFC6333] directs IANA to reserve 192.0.0.0/29 for the B4 > element. This memo generalizes that reservation to include other > cases where a non-routed IPv4 interface must be numbered in an IPv6 > transition solution. idnits whines about “[RFC6333]”, preferring “RFC 6333”. > 1 Introduction > > DS-Lite [RFC6333] directs IANA to reserve 192.0.0.0/29 for the B4 > element. This memo generalizes that IANA reservation to include > other cases where a non-routed IPv4 interface must be numbered in an > IPv6 transition solutions. IANA shall list 192.0.0.0/29 to be > reserved for IPv6 Transitional Technology IPv4 Prefix. The result is ^reserved as an^? > that 192.0.0.0/29 may be used in any system that requires IPv4 > addresses for backward compatibility with IPv4 communications, but > does not emit IPv4 packets "on the wire". > > 2 The Case of 464XLAT > > 464XLAT [RFC6877] describes an architecture for providing IPv4 > communication over an IPv6-only access network. One of the methods > described in [RFC6877] is for the client side translator (CLAT) to be > embedded in the host, such as a smartphone. In this scenario, the > host must have an IPv4 address configured to present to the network > stack and for applications to bind sockets. > > 3. Choosing 192.0.0.0/29 > > To avoid conflicts with any other network that may communicate with > the CLAT, a locally unique address must be assigned. Dumb question. Is there a reason to not use 169.254.0.0/16? I don’t suppose you have a MAC address, but if you can pick a number in 0..31, I should think you could pick a number in 0..65535, and you might even have a source for it. > IANA has defined a well-known range, 192.0.0.0/29, in [RFC6333], > which is dedicated for DS-lite. As defined in [RFC6333], this subnet > is only present between the B4 and the AFTR and never emits packets > from this prefix "on the wire". 464XLAT has the same need for a non- > routed IPv4 prefix. It is most prudent and effective to generalize > 192.0.0.0/29 for the use of supporting IPv4 interfaces in IPv6 > transition technologies rather than reserving a prefix for every > possible solution. > > 4 Security Considerations > > No new security considerations beyond what is described [RFC6333] and > [RFC6877]. > > > 5 IANA Considerations > > IANA is directed to generalize the reservation of 192.0.0.0/29 from > DS-lite to "IPv6 Transitional Technology IPv4 Prefix". > > > 6 References > > > > > Byrne Expires July 1, 2014 [Page 3] > INTERNET DRAFT Transitional IPv4 Prefix December 28, 2013 > > > 6.1 Normative References > > [RFC6333] Durand, A., Droms, R., Woodyatt, J., and Y. Lee, "Dual- > Stack Lite Broadband Deployments Following IPv4 > Exhaustion", RFC6333, August 2011. > > [RFC6877] Mawatari, M., Kawashima, M., and C. Byrne, "464XLAT: > Combination of Stateful and Stateless Translation", > RFC6877, April 2013.
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… Ross Chandler
- [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-01 Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… TheIpv6guy .
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… Mark ZZZ Smith
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… Ca By
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… Owen DeLong
- [v6ops] Done now... Re: Thoughts on draft-byrne-v… joel jaeggli