Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-01
Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com> Thu, 01 May 2014 02:55 UTC
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From: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
Date: Thu, 01 May 2014 11:55:06 +0900
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-01
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On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Fred Baker (fred) <fred@cisco.com> wrote: > Ask me someday what thoughts go through my mind about applications making > inferences from network layer addresses. > The wording in RFC 3927 is much stronger. For example, it states multiple times that packets sourced from 169.254/16 MUST NOT be forwarded, and that they MUST NOT ever be sent to any router for forwarding. I think it's perfectly reasonable for an app (or even an OS!) to assume that such addresses have no connectivity. > Hey, 192.168.0.0/16 is for networks that don’t connect to the Internet. > You want proof? From RFC 1918, the motivation is > > With the proliferation of TCP/IP technology worldwide, including > outside the Internet itself, an increasing number of non-connected > enterprises use this technology and its addressing capabilities for > sole intra-enterprise communications, without any intention to ever > directly connect to other enterprises or the Internet itself. > Funny, that's what the proponents of ULA-only networks say too - "no, this network will NEVER connect to the Internet, ever!!11" I suspect they do so because they know that saying "we want to use NAT to connect this network to the Internet like we do in IPv4" is going to result in strong opinions and removal of support for the use case. But that's off-topic here.
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… Ross Chandler
- [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-01 Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… TheIpv6guy .
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… Mark ZZZ Smith
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… Ca By
- Re: [v6ops] Thoughts on draft-byrne-v6ops-clatip-… Owen DeLong
- [v6ops] Done now... Re: Thoughts on draft-byrne-v… joel jaeggli