Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/destination routing
Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com> Thu, 07 November 2013 16:59 UTC
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From: Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 17:58:56 +0100
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/destination routing
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On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Fred Baker (fred) <fred@cisco.com> wrote: > Examples of use cases are generally around multi-prefix campus networks. There is a security use case that could be of value; at IETF 87, George Michaelson of APNIC reported on ULAs seen in his darknet. The short report is that he sees a fair bit of traffic with a ULA source address on the backbone. An interesting potential use of source/destination routing would counter that, and perhaps mitigate the need for ISP BCP 38 if generally deployed; in a case where a network is using a ULA and a global prefix (e.g., is not multihomed but has two prefixes, one of which is intended to only be used within its network), the default route to the network egress would use the global prefix as a source, and as a result traffic sent outside the network with a ULA source prefix would in effect have no route. The network could literally only emit traffic from its correct prefix. Looks like we (finally) have a chance to enforce the requirement from RFC4007, Section9: "If transmitting the packet on the chosen next-hop interface would cause the packet to leave the zone of the source address, i.e., cross a zone boundary of the scope of the source address, then the packet is discarded. " I'm seeing plenty of packets from link-local sources to global destinations which means that: 1) there are hosts with broken default address selection AND 2) routers on the Internet do forward such packets (violating the rule mentioned above). Fixing #2 actually requires making forwarding decision based on src and dst (which is not happening now). More data (sorry, shameless plug :)) https://ripe67.ripe.net/presentations/288-Jen_RIPE67.pdf -- SY, Jen Linkova aka Furry
- [v6ops] Tsinghua work on source/destination routi… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] Tsinghua work on source/destination r… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Hermin Anggawijaya
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… 神明達哉
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Tim Chown
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Hermin Anggawijaya
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… 神明達哉
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… 神明達哉
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Shu Yang
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Henning Rogge
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Hermin Anggawijaya
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Shu Yang
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Shu Yang
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Markus Stenberg