Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/destination routing
Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> Fri, 08 November 2013 02:44 UTC
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/destination routing
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>> to ensure that the packet is not repeated by a broken router (apart >> from protocols that ask to have it set to 255 and have the receiving >> host check for that value). Also, upstream network's BCP 38 > > I'd note, from purely architectural point of view, that it's totally > valid a packet that has a link-local address is forwarded, as long as > the packet remains in the originating link zone. That would be a very > unlikely case in practice, but can still happen, e.g., when a host > sends all packets to a router, expecting the router to forward it back > to the same link toward the destination. RFC 4007 mentions such > cases. That is not correct… RFC 4291 says: 2.5.6. Link-Local IPv6 Unicast Addresses Link-Local addresses are for use on a single link. Link-Local addresses have the following format: | 10 | | bits | 54 bits | 64 bits | +----------+-------------------------+----------------------------+ |1111111010| 0 | interface ID | +----------+-------------------------+----------------------------+ Link-Local addresses are designed to be used for addressing on a single link for purposes such as automatic address configuration, neighbor discovery, or when no routers are present. Routers must not forward any packets with Link-Local source or destination addresses to other links. It is quite clear that a packet with a link-local address in either field MUST not be forwarded. >> implementation sounds suspect, and I'm with Jen in wondering why a >> router forwarded the packet in the first place. > > It's not surprising to me since the source address is not needed as > long as routing decision is only made based on the destination > address. I noticed one popular router vendor didn't implement this > restriction of RFC 4007 correctly many years ago and even reported it > to the vendor, but (assuming it's still not fixed) just being "non > compliant" is probably not convincing enough for them to introduce > additional overhead in their forwarding logic. It's surprising to me and it means that the router is, by definition, not compliant with RFC 4291, ergo, the router is broken. Owen
- [v6ops] Tsinghua work on source/destination routi… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] Tsinghua work on source/destination r… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Hermin Anggawijaya
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… 神明達哉
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Tim Chown
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Hermin Anggawijaya
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… 神明達哉
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… 神明達哉
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Shu Yang
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Henning Rogge
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Hermin Anggawijaya
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Shu Yang
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Shu Yang
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [v6ops] [homenet] Tsinghua work on source/des… Markus Stenberg