Re: [v6ops] Geoff/queue-closed: 56%

Nalini J Elkins <nalini_elkins@insidethestack.com> Wed, 20 March 2024 04:50 UTC

Return-Path: <nalini_elkins@insidethestack.com>
X-Original-To: v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6C4C14F6AB for <v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 19 Mar 2024 21:50:53 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.904
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.904 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=yahoo.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vPO6Esn_CJL2 for <v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 19 Mar 2024 21:50:50 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from sonic319-27.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic319-27.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.188.89]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BD05C14F60D for <v6ops@ietf.org>; Tue, 19 Mar 2024 21:50:50 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1710910249; bh=7yt2xGXhhA+tmdZEm3y28pdeGmxATOwXxewkGqQGYzQ=; h=Date:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=ACtL66PW9cvXrs1QtlyYayWgREL6dAuy7ysyWSmNJZTlpDkny4R1Pr3tjuPljKSRbLGi2sMRhSlPgCJ+HHejidBbPEMgmnOFpvR6nggkq/wmYbCGrUOpwuumZTTbF3HA4nfN8ALG2Q2rioRvdYKVQNyDIdSHq3E1aX8e7kHANQqRqHfmFsESEK/jqFOsyXcRsXLm0JeVDbhpTznc5nxPecdOcWP8PemWfvGbGkFCp9VQrKruy16D99Ooc7EGpzs5P+Cw0UXLodSTjlrXHoN2Jw2gW8xCS+g7ag0inahgEXk2ceEZJscPwqeyLqaGWlQ/ju78D5XomE1ESXbew1w+cA==
X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1710910249; bh=AK/sGs7s1rWfVo4PkxS/pfvVMWhYWdYrU0xMF7af3Bx=; h=X-Sonic-MF:Date:From:To:Subject:From:Subject; b=P4+j74Opa9iIJvsNJtdsSmCe7Lq4994luLydDmVZFOaQvWAHTTyVfWe116ngZygaeSoweO6AxW4kWyK4oWZ2OEEgTpj480o8tIZfb/+JrVW0WT6LbwfrQmPKOp47OW44TFURi3jraYWA2s4W+x5OxrIOC3cA5Zoo+WbGgzlUM6lAb27bGgmMkktbPBV8C7Fhaj3Dcq2BjArdv/nj8VBJUT5YMN7G0brODYp5LPkXISyjbZEgqflYm2Aj4nxX5xc+efedlYh/LQ9ah8DRt7iB581sgeocOB814+MpTD9BZUKoV55+4uTJO4vu7m/hOZmPuOixMQh+OFIJbHP1fahKYQ==
X-YMail-OSG: ylXRE7wVM1mbDRF1KK49XdpPbh8efOlodagLtT7.gE3gjCSbbQWR9tJsa0giDYM Dq_VFcIg6qF_GHVYUY1Y._fxQTEvWlcdNHztDwu4K54iH9oVYUU4W7xbSCveWAQ_XJj9IZRzehg7 _AuZnWerEENnO0vV.WscJdoDDmHMaqGNepi8gjYoHss_UCu6Gay88gLDnXZmxqNEzlVxCD552Li1 1jLQ5cyrXAHTGlQVJro88HcCcylJK3QwtMo0yWB3f1KIoazH_1JiVe.CvVBaMGi68q4lo02fwJV3 gkBSm_6S6DgkjnbsQuHBT82XRM3gc7VBYszUW8T1VKhnlZLFIu4q9oc_N8urwzmI25hXgyL54Hsf pBlmyeEbsZmndkAWkTtUYRXrQKTY98u7js6vNp1XlVcRusTvJ8wxoAWW6iMbXcY4iU7Ve.TkgiDd uTgCtQMEVK2_qf4DOvnZZOmNtjep8Il2XFeJCo1wHXba8Fv5YKFn50qYFsumDtfEyR5YMcbyAw8b zzHa97ziV9nDDMTo2P6PzG17J.Cw5XfzMQ.RzPb5xPbdgsHo5kO6tjg9P8CShb.TonmlX.Aj9Iq3 9c_Xlw35lo2gsV8TvaALqBkslBcW9Y62NRSEvgPEKXgc4RMCRqkq75k2Jeyb2S_Q8072vEr.Q7wq uUIgekrT88S0wLM6u41CY8ZSYO2dgRANqA4XTmgHchktRnIVPThjvFKBSlUWL1zz1uCRlHaxugE9 twVW935LY.K0SL7LIhb7XahbOYDju_dFqJedkBdJFAL6jYb7T2BDkpJ9TFtiUG7qMDZzFpNQQKtx RRGZPx1O4A_21BnVD5H4Y7WlZAaDgni7cwfFw_67EddjPKXhK.izN7tOYDf69L9gQBEHbKfpax0J T_Rwfzt.fkvVuwrbFwVMAJAmgR3aIhBvH8PcU_Awuiz9T0g_Z6bT0FofLpqENKIjhNONIcYl_V_C rU2akJg4KbV9qYzsPtKkNylInCW9in0tVkSYvuXA.vW4pkaEuoo0GiltAxPJsCVi6fNFn.d_uNPj CyYbHzpUopmENL7f.ZSZ7_oZlgv.swz.uC29zJtccbaCiNkyW6RG_D_YbipTpcPxf6YN68vwdZsn TY.MIVqQzyy9FYpt9CxIuVpdbm8wOShCBAkmeBqmD6viklXJGAFLNnTqRpbOiFEquoUUEs6SAUig u6a0k7Tw7jCNe8fluK7FYIykEz.hBqFe.zjq_x9.PjMiA4uejIna.UStb4o3Yu9Dac.gahip14So Nc6wNq_X2axwapMTPloX4TKa1ZDPMPTVFhyzVCblJ4MqX_2nTu7AnsdcYEoXnOU49uPTrByo77YD z4x59jFRt.76nyh_EO6TXdo0x6dbVFiLSQJcnAslrh0x3sWEzWj4.3Vt3c7Vbvp.f0RBhkQ6ci_7 qwX1S1vy4VMMOwoLd.VMvoibvzRt7OgNiq3.sArl_S7oQAWzyiznb6trfIOUQDH1JIv5xxP_JcpK u13UDisljSxsiXrX6MubIsp.r7_6hGvjLVfD.paYao.Ed7nLbyLOuVuXdZIS4w2vfZnBfePqST.r LogtKEY2XDbTIr1WVM0K3dGdbjtLsBOknbPy8dAf6qDYW.3F47.wWBwSoKxBRY4Z9950X1f0Ek_T FfnlBSHQz51FjfApFuaNiyI5SrjB7SCgiSWe4GY3lLUvWtPRYPq9MWcIo.QNrxnZML.s9wDvPLiC hvs6S5jDM3tPzVIBUnHCShSBUSB0tLO7WVTqOKHVViHuSTFbsoWmA02UsPd1L2Faed5tmyeVA.wo 5vXUJzSBWszi93.0Ud9sWuOs4BotPK4F0Ye15WOIQfWHi0j3qdA4yQuvAr9ijv4xWGYNBTPJcOtI 9QLW.j_iNJwxSE6dveMmHvLE2ifopjFP0xGDHXz.scZF5aOIcLTEm.VwsFQjNl_VnZ_qHrti_4_n e3u04g61nKiyp45UqWCNFSwVqgZZh0t0V7lAVwGfOaRT1G80bIKRyEGe5iKZogHtnDAsukKqGmb6 fQLxn6q1syi_atatdKR2ZeGWIOeJyEr1EsgNGmcrHFsTdmeE9bbySby65ZpL95Hr3idNLltOu8cQ bkondXj_QZrKLQszxLUebJLE4h.EEGMn69pNbXdH3Pv.3YBnSvl8dtNOvyK5rMRwK1Tcl3.E1t.. YQd0R..pE9Ov1lBlo2XdJc17nW2fE1P1HPByd69HxERrVX54QGFYshYYai1E2fHcaPrk5Tng2oL0 vzuPHceyTStQidY76yeOJUXncqO0rIlBYhDue.ybl_qhJFk.ES4u2fbNNo88X
X-Sonic-MF: <nalini_elkins@insidethestack.com>
X-Sonic-ID: 65760f40-d42d-4f3d-b6e7-794f2f744f68
Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic319.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Wed, 20 Mar 2024 04:50:49 +0000
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 04:50:40 +0000
From: Nalini J Elkins <nalini_elkins@insidethestack.com>
To: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>, v6ops@ietf.org, gih@apnic.net
Message-ID: <1136306318.7086795.1710910240606@mail.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <ZfplwNJGdpl05bZO@faui48e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
References: <ZfplwNJGdpl05bZO@faui48e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7086794_1173036195.1710910240605"
X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22129 YahooMailIosMobile
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/v6ops/YTbvkFzR0RkbHtr2FGLns4vnTGU>
Subject: Re: [v6ops] Geoff/queue-closed: 56%
X-BeenThere: v6ops@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39
Precedence: list
List-Id: v6ops discussion list <v6ops.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/v6ops>, <mailto:v6ops-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/v6ops/>
List-Post: <mailto:v6ops@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:v6ops-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops>, <mailto:v6ops-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 04:50:54 -0000

Actually, yes.  We have found that many blocks of IPv6 eh is due to destination nodes.
My opinion is that if cdn and cloud vendors change their mis-behavior, then the situation will be greatly improved.


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Wednesday, March 20, 2024, 2:28 PM, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:

Has anyone tried to at least to try to determine the causes of the 56% fragmentation failures ?
Aka: do we know that there are not single relevant causes that actually could be addressed ?

I fail to belive upfront that there are 10,000 individual issues, none happening in more than 0.0056% of the
instances.

Cheers
    Toerless

_______________________________________________
v6ops mailing list
v6ops@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops