Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile-17.txt - C_REC#9 464XLAT

Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> Mon, 16 February 2015 12:37 UTC

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Le 16/02/2015 13:24, Gert Doering a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 01:17:05PM +0100, Alexandru Petrescu wrote:
>> Yes.  And at that point that particular operator no longer offers IPv4
>> literal access and some IPv4 applications will not work.
>
> You *might* have heard about upcoming IPv4 exhaustion, and IPv4 going
> away in the long run.

Gert - let me clarify.  YEs, I know IPv4 exhaustion.  YEs, in the long 
run IPv4 disappears.

> Brain cycles are spent way better on ensuring IPv6 works on new products
> and service offerings than on complaining that specific application
> niches of IPv4 usage (read: applications that do not want to use DNS
> and IP agnostic socket APIs) will break.

No.

What is niche for some is billion-making for others.

End-user products have independent roadmaps than the network.

This is a transition phase.  We need to bring in IPv4 deployments.  It 
should happen smoothly - IPv4 should be there as before and also is this 
IPv6.  It's up to the end user to switch to IPv6 when s/he feels like; 
it's not up to the network to impose this change.

Any transition scheme which requires effort from the end user (either 
upward transition, or retro-compatibility transition) is non inspiring.

Alex


>
> Yes, they will.  We all know that, but they will still break one day.
>
> Get over it.
>
> Gert Doering
>          -- NetMaster
>