Re: [v6ops] Enterprise Guidance on IPv6 (draft-chkpvc-enterprise-incremental-ipv6-00)

Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com> Mon, 18 June 2012 11:14 UTC

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Let me put a straight question to the working group. The topic is:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chkpvc-enterprise-incremental-ipv6
  "Enterprise Incremental IPv6", Lee Howard, Tim Chown, KK Chittimaneni,
  Yanick Pouffary, Eric Vyncke, Victor Kuarsingh, 27-Feb-12

Read the v6ops charter (http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/v6ops/charter/). Do you feel that this document is within the charter? If so, do you feel that the document and its recommendations represent useful advice concerning operational practice in an enterprise (e.g., edge network that is large enough to provide its own IT services as opposed to contracting those) IPv6 network?

Based on that analysis and viewpoint, would you support its adoption as a working group draft?

I am of course interested in views across the working group. In this particular case, however, I would find especially interesting the commentary of enterprise network operators.

On Jun 11, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Lee Howard wrote:

> When discussed in Taipei, it seemed there was real interest in updating
> guidance for 
> enterprise networks.  From lack of list discussion, it now appears there's
> no interest in 
> the WG.  
> 
> 1.  Are people interested?
> 2.  Should we let it die?
> 3.  Should we pursue other avenues of publication?
> 
> Lee
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: v6ops-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:v6ops-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Victor
>> Kuarsingh
>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 7:42 AM
>> To: IPv6 Operations
>> Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-chkpvc-enterprise-incremental-ipv6-00
>> 
>> IPv6 WG,
>> 
>> I would like to kick off some comments on this draft for other group
> members to comment.
>> 
>> I do think (Bias noted) that this material is useful for Enterprises who
> need to being and/or
>> move their IPv6 deployments.  Many (of those I have worked with thus far)
> are bogged
>> down with personnel who are overwhelmed with what it may take to get IPv6
> moving on
>> their networks.
>> 
>> The draft breaks the challenge down by areas of focus (rolled into
>> "Phases") which can help put this large challenge into bite size chunks
> for them. The draft
>> also provides some valid contextual information around
>> IPv6 and highlights areas which should be looked at.
>> 
>> Given the good momentum we now have in the operator space, it would be
> good to see this
>> move forward into the Enterprise space.  I think such documents can help
> many of those still
>> waffling (too many to count) to start acting.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Victor K
>> 
>> 
>> On 12-03-22 8:02 AM, "Tim Chown" <tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Due to a typo in the draft name, this draft didn't hit Fred's automated
>>> WG tools, so the authors would like to raise the draft on the list now
>>> with a view to securing a slot in Paris to discuss its value and content.
>>> 
>>> In Taipei there was a comment in the WG session that there is no
>>> up-to-date v6ops guidance on enterprise networks, while other scenarios
>>> do have such texts.  So at the mic I invited people to join an effort
>>> to put something together.  There is a good breadth of experience
>>> across the people who stepped forward, and the result is available as
>>> 
>>> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-chkpvc-enterprise-incremental-ipv6-00.txt
>>> 
>>> Does the WG think the subject matter of this draft is one we should
>>> pursue in the WG?  If so, is the structure and content appropriate?  We
>>> need some positive feedback and comments in order for Fred to schedule
>>> us time in Paris.
>>> 
>>> We have had a couple of people contact us off-list offering to help
>>> develop the content.  But we'd like some feedback from the WG before
>>> investing more time in doing so.  The -00 text is somewhat "rough", but
>>> we feel it could be polished into something quite useful for the
>>> community.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
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