Re: [v6ops] draft-buraglio-v6ops-ula discussion

Clark Gaylord <cgaylord@vt.edu> Mon, 01 August 2022 15:29 UTC

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Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2022 11:29:10 -0400
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-buraglio-v6ops-ula discussion
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For most use cases private legacy replacement is global addressing. Wide
scale ULA will only encourage NAT66 and similar abominations. The point of
IPv6 is to restore the end-to-end principle to the network (and the way we
*think*) not perpetuate bad ideas.

We should absolutely encourage proper use cases for ULA but the VM farm,
for example, typically *isn't* it. (Someone recently pointed out the
control plane of their mpls fabric -- that's probably a good example.)

Enterprise network admins got sold a bill of goods by vendors who wanted to
keep them ignorant telling them that "NAT = security".

--ckg

On Mon, Aug 1, 2022, 11:18 Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.eduard=
40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> +1.
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> 1.
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> DualStack is for a long time in the Enterprise.
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> ULA priority below IPv4 makes it useless.
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> People would be looking for a Private IPv4 replacement.
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> The absence of the replacement would considerably delay IPv6 adoption in
> the Enterprise.
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> 2.
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> Not many expect such ULA priority. People are massively misleaded.
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> Eduard
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> *From:* v6ops [mailto:v6ops-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Ed Horley
> *Sent:* Monday, August 1, 2022 6:02 PM
> *To:* Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* v6ops list <v6ops@ietf.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [v6ops] draft-buraglio-v6ops-ula discussion
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> I support adoption of the draft
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> On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 08:01 Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
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> At IETF 114, Nick discussed draft-buraglio-v6ops-ula, which is ongoing in
> another thread. He asked for the WG to adopt the draft; should we?
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