Re: [vmeet] Supporting interim meetings
Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Mon, 18 May 2009 22:10 UTC
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Subject: Re: [vmeet] Supporting interim meetings
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 5/18/09 4:09 PM, Doug Otis wrote: > > On May 17, 2009, at 12:54 PM, Thomas Narten wrote: > >>> >>> But last-minute changes, even changes _during_ the presentation are >>> the nature of the beast. I agree with Dave. >> >> Not for the kinds of meetings we are talking about. We are talking >> about WG meetings that are scheduled weeks out in advance. Things >> shouldn't be in serious flux moments before the call... There may be >> exceptions, but in general charts can be done a few days out in >> advance of a meeting. > > A meeting schedule does not ensure presentation stability and technology > allows presentations to reflect recent discussions. Many will clarify > where discussions have advanced, and some progress occurs just prior to > meetings. As with their own names, many tend to forget to state which > side is being projected as well. Streaming static images that are being > projected seems practical, especially when the device connected to the > projector is standardized. Perhaps we are in part seeking technological solutions to social problems? I know that I too have been guilty of making slides at the last minute, but if the WG chairs set the expectation that if you don't provide slides X hours or days ahead of time then you won't be speaking, perhaps presenters would provide their slides and folks who are participating remotely would have what they need. Peter - -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkoR3ToACgkQNL8k5A2w/vwh/gCZARfrAmCHMPZAe068If11SO9A 8X8AoMyEZkbqN8lOXLHTu119y+ioCT25 =7Yky -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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- Re: [vmeet] Supporting interim meetings (was Re: … Thomas Narten
- Re: [vmeet] Supporting interim meetings John Leslie
- Re: [vmeet] Supporting interim meetings (was Re: … Dave Cridland
- [vmeet] The philosophy behind the list of recomme… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [vmeet] Supporting interim meetings Dave CROCKER
- Re: [vmeet] Supporting interim meetings Brian Rosen
- Re: [vmeet] Supporting interim meetings Dave CROCKER
- Re: [vmeet] Supporting interim meetings John Leslie
- [vmeet] timeframe Dave CROCKER
- Re: [vmeet] timeframe John Leslie
- Re: [vmeet] timeframe Doug Otis
- Re: [vmeet] timeframe Dave Cridland
- Re: [vmeet] timeframe Brian Rosen
- Re: [vmeet] Supporting interim meetings Thomas Narten
- Re: [vmeet] Supporting interim meetings Doug Otis
- Re: [vmeet] Supporting interim meetings Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [vmeet] Supporting interim meetings Doug Otis