Re: [vmeet] Supporting interim meetings
Doug Otis <doug.mtview@gmail.com> Mon, 18 May 2009 23:02 UTC
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From: Doug Otis <doug.mtview@gmail.com>
To: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>
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Subject: Re: [vmeet] Supporting interim meetings
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On May 18, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Perhaps we are in part seeking technological solutions to social > problems? Whatever the cause, social or human-nature, not knowing what is being presented makes for poor remote experiences. Time-stamps on video streams could allow merging audio streams for later combined presentations. > I know that I too have been guilty of making slides at the last > minute, but if the WG chairs set the expectation that if you don't > provide slides X hours or days ahead of time then you won't be > speaking, perhaps presenters would provide their slides and folks > who are participating remotely would have what they need. The WG chairs are people too, who are likely making this exception for themselves. The cost of a device connected to projectors for creating and streaming static video images is fairly minor, >$300. Requiring use of these devices ensures presentation materials are retained by the IETF. In addition, placing presentation material on projector devices better ensures time is not lost moving projector cables or fumbling with screen resolutions. Projector devices can access file shares on the local network, where WG chairs would transfer presentations to the IETF file shares being made available both locally and remotely. Of course, it would be safer to have presentations available some period prior to the meeting. The requested advanced period might be based upon durations of typical IETF meeting network outages. -Doug
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- Re: [vmeet] Supporting interim meetings Doug Otis
- Re: [vmeet] Supporting interim meetings Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [vmeet] Supporting interim meetings Doug Otis