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Re: IETF meat grinder

Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> Tue, 04 October 2022 22:07 UTC

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From: Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>
To: Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx>
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Subject: Re: IETF meat grinder
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Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> wrote:
    > TBH, I don't think the official IETF process docs say all that much
    > prescriptively about how WGs have to work, so I think you have a pretty
    > free hand there, as long as you can ultimately demonstrate consensus,
    > and that there was openness and transparency in the process.  The final
    > approval steps are the main thing.  For that, the MLS chairs have a
    > handy map + "You are here" marker, see, e.g.:

    > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/114/materials/slides-114-mls-chairs-slides-00.pdf

That's the slide I want.
You are here.

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