IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [wpkops] Preliminary Next Version of Browser Behavior Draft

Tim Moses <tim.moses@entrust.com> Thu, 05 June 2014 14:19 UTC

Return-Path: <tim.moses@entrust.com>
X-Original-To: wpkops@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: wpkops@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8864F1A01EB for <wpkops@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 07:19:43 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.552
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wrq4qoVggMOy for <wpkops@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 07:19:41 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from ipedge2.entrust.com (ipedge2.entrust.com [216.191.252.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F9F01A0205 for <wpkops@ietf.org>; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 07:19:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.98,981,1392181200"; d="scan'208";a="1189182"
Received: from unknown (HELO sottexchcas.corp.ad.entrust.com) ([10.4.51.93]) by ipedge2.entrust.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 05 Jun 2014 10:19:12 -0400
Received: from SOTTEXCH11.corp.ad.entrust.com ([fe80::303b:8584:c6f4:be18]) by sottexchcas1.corp.ad.entrust.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 10:19:11 -0400
From: Tim Moses <tim.moses@entrust.com>
To: Gervase Markham <gerv@mozilla.org>
Thread-Topic: [wpkops] Preliminary Next Version of Browser Behavior Draft
Thread-Index: Ac9uwg5tUjGh+edRQh2AER9r67oKVQLT+HEAAY+VWIAAHLZlEAAJkowAAAhODMA=
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 14:19:10 +0000
Message-ID: <5B68A271B9C97046963CB6A5B8D6F62CE819E1A5@SOTTEXCH11.corp.ad.entrust.com>
References: <001901cf6ec2$376461b0$a62d2510$@digicert.com> <059501cf79f0$69ba9060$3d2fb120$@digicert.com> <538F795F.3020008@mozilla.org> <5B68A271B9C97046963CB6A5B8D6F62CE819DE1D@SOTTEXCH11.corp.ad.entrust.com> <53907A4C.7070307@mozilla.org>
In-Reply-To: <53907A4C.7070307@mozilla.org>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
x-originating-ip: [10.4.160.44]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
MIME-Version: 1.0
Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/wpkops/-vi1bAmY5GN497oYUTltmLKqTYQ
Cc: "wpkops@ietf.org" <wpkops@ietf.org>, "ben@digicert.com" <ben@digicert.com>
Subject: Re: [wpkops] Preliminary Next Version of Browser Behavior Draft
X-BeenThere: wpkops@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: <wpkops.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/wpkops>, <mailto:wpkops-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/wpkops/>
List-Post: <mailto:wpkops@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:wpkops-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkops>, <mailto:wpkops-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2014 14:19:43 -0000

Gerv:  You have to look for that in the charter ...

http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/wpkops/charter/

The significance of WG Draft is that it identifies the single document (or sequence of documents) of the declared scope on which the group will focus its efforts.  It is not expected that the first WG Draft will be complete or internally consistent.

It is often stated that the experts in the community will not engage until a document achieves WG Draft status.  So, we are hoping for, and expecting, a more vigorous debate once the document advances to WG Draft status.

All the best.  Tim.


-----Original Message-----
From: Gervase Markham [mailto:gerv@mozilla.org] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 10:10 AM
To: Tim Moses; ben@digicert.com
Cc: wpkops@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [wpkops] Preliminary Next Version of Browser Behavior Draft

On 05/06/14 14:37, Tim Moses wrote:
> Hi Ben.  We want to move this document to WG draft status.  Do you 
> want to address Gerv's comments before we hold a ballot?  I suggest we 
> do that.

Again, apologies for lack of knowledge of the process, but: the doc is full of "to be expanded", "we plan to..." etc. So there will be lots of further change. Is that what "Draft" means?

My two examples were two of many; they were actually given to try and get clarity on the purpose and goals of the document. If that's written up somewhere, do point me to it. :-)

Gerv

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email