Re: [72attendees] 72nd - T-shirt Pick Up
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I provided the Host the T-shirt size numbers based on the extrapolation of the experience of a_ previous Host some time ago. Not their fault. We will find another way to determine sizes. These are nice shirts. Ray IAD Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Soininen Jonne (NSN FI/Espoo)" <jonne.soininen@nsn.com> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:10:27 To: ext JORDI PALET MARTINEZ<jordi.palet@consulintel.es>; 72attendees@ietf.org<72attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [72attendees] 72nd - T-shirt Pick Up Jordi, Like Ole said, the T-shirts are extra that the host may, or may not provide. I think we actually had a meeting without official T-shirts during my time in the IETF. I think it was in Australia. So, don't plan your wardrobe based on the IETF T-shirts. T-shirt sizes are a black magic of its own. As the T-shirts are the responsibility of the host, the next host has to start from scratch and estimate the T-shirt size distribution if they don't get the last time's distribution. So, sometimes the size distribution might not be 100% correct. This has been the case always in the IETF. This time, the host very clearly informed that the T-shirts are coming on Tuesday, and they also informed this list when they would be available. I think that was very good. I'm sure there were enough possibilities to get your T-shirt. I am sorry that your meeting was ruined by getting a wrong size T-shirt. Maybe for the next meeting, remember that you might want to be early for the T-shirts, if they are very important for you. Cheers, Jonne. On 7/31/08 7:41 PM, "ext JORDI PALET MARTINEZ" <jordi.palet@consulintel.es> wrote: > Well, its not quite recently, I think it has been like that for years. > > And right, but if they host decide to provide something, I think it is clear > it should be done correctly, not in an unfair way, closing the table when > they decide, without a previous announcement. > > Is not a matter of the value of the t-shirt, is a matter of being fair and > coherent. Which in my opinion this meeting proved we aren't too much in many > aspects, unfortunately I must say has been the worst meeting I ever > attended. Of course, a personal view. > > Regards, > Jordi > > > > >> From: Ole Jacobsen <ole@cisco.com> >> Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen <ole@cisco.com> >> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:25:20 -0700 (PDT) >> To: Jordi Palet Martínez <jordi.palet@consulintel.es> >> Cc: <72attendees@ietf.org> >> Subject: Re: [72attendees] 72nd - T-shirt Pick Up >> >> Jordi, >> >> I am sure the T-shirt allocation and distribution could be improved, >> but I feel compelled to point out that it is NOT a requirement that >> the host provide the T-shirts. It is something they can choose to do. >> In the past, you only got a T-shirt if you paid for the social ticket, >> that has been extended to "everyone" more recently. >> >> Ole >> >> Ole J. Jacobsen >> Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal >> Cisco Systems >> Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 >> E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj >> >> >> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm not sure if this is done when doing the registration, but I recall in >>> some conference registration, asking the participant for the size of the >>> t-shirt, in order to do a better allocation of how many of each size are >>> required. >>> >>> Usually I pick up my t-shirt in all the meetings when I do the registration >>> on Sunday. However this time it was not ready. So I tried to pick up the >>> t-shirt this week several times and the answer was always, "I'm sorry it is >>> too late today", "I'm sorry again is too late because we need to go to the >>> plenary" and so on ... Really unfair and bad service, specially because the >>> original message didn't indicated "you can pick-up it from xxx to yyy", so >>> we can organize ourselves in when doing so. I told them very clearly "sorry, >>> if you want to provide the service and the t-shirt, do it correctly, >>> otherwise, better don't do it". >>> >>> This morning I finally was able to get it, and suprise, only XL was >>> available, when my size is S, even some times XS. Clearly M, cold do, but L >>> or XL definitively not. >>> >>> I hope we can do it much better next time and be fair with everybody. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Jordi >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> From: Marcia Beaulieu <mbeaulieu@amsl.com> >>>> Reply-To: <72attendees-bounces@ietf.org> >>>> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:31:07 +0100 >>>> To: <72attendees@ietf.org> >>>> Subject: [72attendees] 72nd - T-shirt Pick Up >>>> >>>> The cut-off for t-shirt collection is 17:30 today (Thursday, July 31, >>>> 2008). Please ensure you collect your shirt from the Alcatel-Lucent >>>> desk by that time. Only a limited stock of size XL still available. >>>> >>>> There will be no t-shirt distribution on Friday. >>>> >>>> Please also feel free to pick up an event poster. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Alcatel-Lucent >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>> 72attendees mailing list >>>> 72attendees@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/72attendees >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ********************************************** >>> The IPv6 Portal: http://www.ipv6tf.org >>> >>> Bye 6Bone. Hi, IPv6 ! >>> http://www.ipv6day.org >>> >>> This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or >>> confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the >>> individual(s) named above. 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- [72attendees] 72nd - T-shirt Pick Up Marcia Beaulieu
- Re: [72attendees] 72nd - T-shirt Pick Up JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [72attendees] 72nd - T-shirt Pick Up john+ietf
- Re: [72attendees] 72nd - T-shirt Pick Up Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [72attendees] 72nd - T-shirt Pick Up KHATRI PARESH
- Re: [72attendees] 72nd - T-shirt Pick Up JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [72attendees] 72nd - T-shirt Pick Up Tim Chown
- [72attendees] Some thanks (was: 72nd - T-shirt Pi… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [72attendees] Some thanks (was: 72nd - T-shir… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [72attendees] Some thanks (was: 72nd - T-shir… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [72attendees] Some thanks (was: 72nd - T-shir… Tim Chown
- Re: [72attendees] Some thanks (was: 72nd - T-shir… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [72attendees] Some thanks Joerg Ott
- Re: [72attendees] Some thanks Stewart Bryant
- Re: [72attendees] 72nd - T-shirt Pick Up Soininen Jonne (NSN FI/Espoo)
- Re: [72attendees] Some thanks (was: 72nd - T-shir… David B Harrington
- Re: [72attendees] Some thanks (was: 72nd - T-shir… Ahmad Muhanna
- Re: [72attendees] 72nd - T-shirt Pick Up Tony Hansen
- Re: [72attendees] 72nd - T-shirt Pick Up JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [72attendees] 72nd - T-shirt Pick Up Soininen Jonne (NSN FI/Espoo)
- Re: [72attendees] 72nd - T-shirt Pick Up Christopher LILJENSTOLPE
- Re: [72attendees] 72nd - T-shirt Pick Up rpelletier
- Re: [72attendees] Some thanks (was: 72nd - T-shir… Hans Kruse
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