Re: [72attendees] 72nd - T-shirt Pick Up

Jordi,

Like Ole said, the T-shirts are extra that the host may, or may not provide.
I think we actually had a meeting without official T-shirts during my time
in the IETF. I think it was in Australia. So, don't plan your wardrobe based
on the IETF T-shirts.

T-shirt sizes are a black magic of its own. As the T-shirts are the
responsibility of the host, the next host has to start from scratch and
estimate the T-shirt size distribution if they don't get the last time's
distribution. So, sometimes the size distribution might not be 100% correct.
This has been the case always in the IETF.

This time, the host very clearly informed that the T-shirts are coming on
Tuesday, and they also informed this list when they would be available. I
think that was very good. I'm sure there were enough possibilities to get
your T-shirt. 

I am sorry that your meeting was ruined by getting a wrong size T-shirt.
Maybe for the next meeting, remember that you might want to be early for the
T-shirts, if they are very important for you.

Cheers,

Jonne.

On 7/31/08 7:41 PM, "ext JORDI PALET MARTINEZ" <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>
wrote:

> Well, its not quite recently, I think it has been like that for years.
> 
> And right, but if they host decide to provide something, I think it is clear
> it should be done correctly, not in an unfair way, closing the table when
> they decide, without a previous announcement.
> 
> Is not a matter of the value of the t-shirt, is a matter of being fair and
> coherent. Which in my opinion this meeting proved we aren't too much in many
> aspects, unfortunately I must say has been the worst meeting I ever
> attended. Of course, a personal view.
> 
> Regards,
> Jordi
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> From: Ole Jacobsen <ole@cisco.com>
>> Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen <ole@cisco.com>
>> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:25:20 -0700 (PDT)
>> To: Jordi Palet Martínez <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>
>> Cc: <72attendees@ietf.org>
>> Subject: Re: [72attendees] 72nd - T-shirt Pick Up
>> 
>> Jordi,
>> 
>> I am sure the T-shirt allocation and distribution could be improved,
>> but I feel compelled to point out that it is NOT a requirement that
>> the host provide the T-shirts. It is something they can choose to do.
>> In the past, you only got a T-shirt if you paid for the social ticket,
>> that has been extended to "everyone" more recently.
>> 
>> Ole
>> 
>> Ole J. Jacobsen
>> Editor and Publisher,  The Internet Protocol Journal
>> Cisco Systems
>> Tel: +1 408-527-8972   Mobile: +1 415-370-4628
>> E-mail: ole@cisco.com  URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure if this is done when doing the registration, but I recall in
>>> some conference registration, asking the participant for the size of the
>>> t-shirt, in order to do a better allocation of how many of each size are
>>> required.
>>> 
>>> Usually I pick up my t-shirt in all the meetings when I do the registration
>>> on Sunday. However this time it was not ready. So I tried to pick up the
>>> t-shirt this week several times and the answer was always, "I'm sorry it is
>>> too late today", "I'm sorry again is too late because we need to go to the
>>> plenary" and so on ... Really unfair and bad service, specially because the
>>> original message didn't indicated "you can pick-up it from xxx to yyy", so
>>> we can organize ourselves in when doing so. I told them very clearly "sorry,
>>> if you want to provide the service and the t-shirt, do it correctly,
>>> otherwise, better don't do it".
>>> 
>>> This morning I finally was able to get it, and suprise, only XL was
>>> available, when my size is S, even some times XS. Clearly M, cold do, but L
>>> or XL definitively not.
>>> 
>>> I hope we can do it much better next time and be fair with everybody.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Jordi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: Marcia Beaulieu <mbeaulieu@amsl.com>
>>>> Reply-To: <72attendees-bounces@ietf.org>
>>>> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:31:07 +0100
>>>> To: <72attendees@ietf.org>
>>>> Subject: [72attendees] 72nd - T-shirt Pick Up
>>>> 
>>>> The cut-off for t-shirt collection is 17:30 today (Thursday, July 31,
>>>> 2008).  Please ensure you collect your shirt from the Alcatel-Lucent
>>>> desk by that time. Only a limited stock of size XL still available.
>>>> 
>>>> There will be no t-shirt distribution on Friday.
>>>> 
>>>> Please also feel free to pick up an event poster.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Alcatel-Lucent
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