Re: [76attendees] How to pronounce "Hiroshima"

Dae Young KIM <dykim6@gmail.com> Thu, 05 November 2009 18:57 UTC

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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 03:57:20 +0900
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I'm not a Japanese, but I'd suggest you pronounce it just like:

    hee-RO-shee-ma     (ee = short 'i') (O = short 'o')
                                     (a bit of accent at RO)
                                     ('ma' as in 'mother')

For, I don't think RO is with a long vowel in this case. And also, they
don't pronounce it like 'roe' or 'row' in Japan, I think. Just a simple
sound 'o'.

If you're a Spanish or an Italian, you'd be more comfortable to pronounce
this 'simple' vowels.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 3:42 AM, Dale Worley <dworley@nortel.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 10:15 -0800, Gregory M. Lebovitz wrote:
> > At 08:51 AM 11/5/2009, Dale Worley wrote:
> > >I was once in Japan long ago, and one of the few things I remember about
> > >Japanese is that the pronunciation of "Hiroshima" is much different than
> > >it is in English.  In (Standard American) English, it is pronounced "hi
> > >roe SHEE ma", but in Japanese (IIRC) it is closer to "hi ROE shi ma".
> >
> > Is it [hi ROE shi ma] or [hee ROW shee ma]?
>
> Good point:  Now that you mention it, the vowel's (i/ee) nature is
> somewhat between the English "short i" and "long e".  What I noticed
> more is that they are both of rather short duration, whereas I think
> that any "long e" in English is prolonged a bit.  The stress on the
> second syllable is quite pronounced.  The vowel of the second syllable
> is a "long o" but with no "w" at the end, somewhat like Standard
> American English "roe" (fish eggs) or "row" (to propel a boat forward).
>
> And while we're at it, in "Osaka", the first syllable is stressed, and
> its vowel is a long o that is definitely prolonged, it's one of the
> Japanese "long vowels", so it is sort of OOO-sa-ka.
>
> Dale
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