Re: [Add] ADD Calls for WF Adoption

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Sun, 31 October 2021 19:58 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Add] ADD Calls for WF Adoption
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Geoff Huston <gih903@gmail.com> wrote:
    > Hi Eric,

    > So here we are in a call as to whether documents should be discussed by
    > the WG and we are doing just that. Seems to me that the adoption
    > question is already answered.

    > No, I do not believe that WG adoption means that the document describes
    > a good idea nor one that is going to lead to some published
    > document(s). It means that a bunch of folk want to talk about it and
    > discuss their various interpretations of the concepts exposed in the
    > document(s). It may lead somewhere. Or it may be a set of terrible
    > ideas and lead nowhere. And that’s fine. WG Adoption is not an
    > endorsement of the concepts, nor should it ever be.

I strongly agree with Geoff.

    > I support DISCUSSING these draft. I don’t necessarily agree with the
    > draft, nor can I (or anyone else for that matter) claim that the WG


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