Re: [apps-discuss] On "supporting the publication of this document"

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Tue, 10 May 2011 21:10 UTC

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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] On "supporting the publication of this document"
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On 5/10/11 8:45 AM, Dave CROCKER wrote:

> Your note suggests that, at the least, the text of a Last Call should
> make much more clear what sorts of comments are being sought (and why
> and probably from whom.)  The community should not have to guess what
> sorts of responses are useful for the IESG.

FWIW, over in the XMPP Standards Foundation (xmpp.org) we ask the
following questions in each of our Last Call announcements:

#    Please consider the following questions during this Last Call and
#    send your feedback to the standards@xmpp.org discussion list:
#
#    1. Is this specification needed to fill gaps in the XMPP
#       protocol stack or to clarify an existing protocol?
#    2. Does the specification solve the problem stated in the
#       introduction and requirements?
#    3. Do you plan to implement this specification in your code?
#       If not, why not?
#    4. Do you have any security concerns related to this specification?
#    5. Is the specification accurate and clearly written?

Whether that's the right set of questions is another issue...

Peter

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