Re: [apps-discuss] draft-saintandre-json-namespaces-00 comments

Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Tue, 08 November 2011 19:20 UTC

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On 08/11/2011, at 1:18 PM, Julian Reschke wrote:

> On 2011-11-08 20:10, Mark Nottingham wrote:
>> I don't think URIs should be used for this.
>> ...
> 
> Well, one use case that the proposal is addressing is the transport of data from frameworks that *already* use URIs; such a WebDAV properties or JCR identifiers. In these cases you really have only the choice of using the identifiers you have, or establishing a completely new identifier system.
> 
> And yes, it would be helpful if the draft was just saying that and not make the impression that it was solving the generic problem for JSON.

Ah. I see that as almost an application-specific issue, nothing that should be standardised. Doing that would be leaving sharp tools around small children.

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