Re: [apps-discuss] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-saintandre-xdash-03.txt

Mykyta Yevstifeyev <evnikita2@gmail.com> Fri, 12 August 2011 04:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-saintandre-xdash-03.txt
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Peter,

I think your document should be clear whether it affects the "vnd." 
construction, used, eg., as I remember, in MIME media types and elsewhere.

With respect to existing IANA policies regarding assignment and 
registration values beginning in "X-".  I suppose IANA should continue 
to follow those policies which were set by the corresponding documents, 
in order not to create the influx of registrations of "X-" values.  
However, when the "X-" convention is deprecated, new protocols will not 
need to set such policy; so no changes for IANA are necessary now.

Mykyta Yevstifeyev

26.07.2011 15:59, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> FYI. The authors have yet to incorporate any of the feedback from the
> APPSAWG meeting yesterday.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: I-D Action: draft-saintandre-xdash-03.txt
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 05:50:42 -0700
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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
>
> 	Title           : Deprecating Use of the&quot;X-&quot; Prefix in
> Application Protocols
> 	Author(s)       : Peter Saint-Andre
>                            D. Crocker
>                            Mark Nottingham
> 	Filename        : draft-saintandre-xdash-03.txt
> 	Pages           : 12
> 	Date            : 2011-07-26
>
>     Historically, there has often been a perceived distinction between
>     &quot;standard&quot; and&quot;non-standard&quot; parameters (such as
> media types and
>     header fields), by prefixing the latter with the string&quot;X-&quot; or
>     similar constructions (e.g.,&quot;x.&quot;).
>
>     In practice, this convention causes more problems than it solves.
>     Therefore, this document deprecates the&quot;X-&quot; convention for
> most
>     application protocol parameters.
>
>
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