Re: [apps-discuss] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-saintandre-xdash-03.txt

Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com> Sat, 13 August 2011 15:57 UTC

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> I think your document should be clear whether it affects the "vnd."
> construction, used, eg., as I remember, in MIME media types and elsewhere.

The answer to that is "no", by definition. The unregistered (x-/x.) tree
is 100% disjoint from the vendor, personal, and standard trees.

> With respect to existing IANA policies regarding assignment and
> registration values beginning in "X-".  I suppose IANA should continue
> to follow those policies which were set by the corresponding documents,
> in order not to create the influx of registrations of "X-" values.

Actually, there has been some sentiment that we should actually allow
and encourage such registrations.

> However, when the "X-" convention is deprecated, new protocols will not
> need to set such policy; so no changes for IANA are necessary now.

Given that the media types registration procedures document is currently
being revised, any changes to x-/x. in that context should be dealt
with in that update. Putting it in a separate general document would
be both confusing and inappropriate.

				Ned