Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy
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Subject: Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy
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Under the US Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA) there is no general requirement for financial disclosure, except where it is relevant to Committee business. So if we were talking about an Internet-related committee (e.g. not fish and wildlife) income from “fish processing” would not be relevant so would not need to be disclosed. > On Jan 12, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Cullen Jennings <fluffy@iii.ca> wrote: > > > >> On Jan 8, 2020, at 4:14 PM, IAB Chair <iab-chair@iab.org> wrote: >> >> The IAB requires that all Covered Individuals disclose their main employment, sponsorship, consulting customer, or other sources of income when joining the IAB or whenever there are updates. > > Say one of my sources of income involved dead fish and does not have any COI with work of IETF. I don’t think it is reasonable to expect disclosure of that. If at some point a COI did arise from this, then I think it would be reasonable to disclose at that time. This may just be a bit confusing on how to I should read “main” and “other sources of incoming” > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Architecture-discuss mailing list > Architecture-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/architecture-discuss
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Stewart Bryant
- [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy IAB Chair
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy John C Klensin
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Eric Rescorla
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Stewart Bryant
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Alvaro Retana
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Joe Touch
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Warren Kumari
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Stephen Farrell
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Richard Barnes
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Ben Campbell
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Salz, Rich
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Salz, Rich
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Joe Touch
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Eric Rescorla
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Ben Campbell
- Re: [arch-d] [IAB] Draft IAB conflict of interest… Ted Hardie
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Livingood, Jason
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Livingood, Jason
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Livingood, Jason
- Re: [arch-d] [EXTERNAL] Re: Draft IAB conflict of… Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal)
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Ben Campbell
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [arch-d] [EXTERNAL] Re: Draft IAB conflict of… Mary Barnes
- Re: [arch-d] [IAB] Draft IAB conflict of interest… S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Joe Touch
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Bernard Aboba
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Eric Rescorla
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Joe Touch
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Marc Blanchet
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Eliot Lear (elear)
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Joe Touch
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Pete Resnick
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Stewart Bryant
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Cullen Jennings
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Bernard Aboba
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Christian Huitema
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Brian E Carpenter
- [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Guntur Wiseno Putra
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Roni Even (A)
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy S Moonesamy
- [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Guntur Wiseno Putra
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Toerless Eckert
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Robert Raszuk
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Randy Bush
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Salz, Rich
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Randy Bush
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Salz, Rich
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Toerless Eckert
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Toerless Eckert
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy John C Klensin
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Ted Hardie
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Ted Hardie
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy S Moonesamy