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Re: [arch-d] Proposed IAB program on Wholistic Human-Oriented Discussions on Identity Systems (WHODIS)

Hesham ElBakoury <helbakoury@gmail.com> Sun, 20 August 2023 00:21 UTC

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Subject: Re: [arch-d] Proposed IAB program on Wholistic Human-Oriented Discussions on Identity Systems (WHODIS)
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Is there a decision regarding whether device identity should be included 
in the program or not for device-to-device and device-to-network?

Thanks

Hesham

On 6/27/2023 4:49 PM, Rifaat Shekh-Yusef wrote:
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>
> On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 7:44 PM Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> wrote:
>
>     On Wed, Jun 28, 2023, at 09:39, Rifaat Shekh-Yusef wrote:
>     > I am not concerned that much about the title; this can be changed.
>     > I think a workshop, or maybe a few focused workshops, should be
>     used to
>     > make the decision on what to include and what to exclude.
>
>     Clearly we disagree. 
>
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> I think we are in agreement here :)
>
>
>     My perspective is that identity for devices is not that
>     interesting a problem; it only gets interesting when humans are
>     involved.
>
>
> I respect that perspective, but others in the community might 
> disagree. So, let's not dismiss it that early, and let the community 
> decide.
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