RE: [Asrg] Two ways to look at spam
"Bob Wyman" <bob@wyman.us> Tue, 01 July 2003 19:41 UTC
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From: Bob Wyman <bob@wyman.us>
To: 'Yakov Shafranovich' <research@solidmatrix.com>, 'Paul Judge' <paul.judge@ciphertrust.com>, asrg@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Asrg] Two ways to look at spam
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Yakov Shafranovich wrote: >However, on the global level how does is the consent framework relevant? I don't think it is too hard to see how various consent based systems could work on a global level. Not all of the possiblities are going to be sensible, however... 1. If consent can be "expressed" in some sort of a document or data structure, that "expression of consent" can be communicated or moved from the local periphery of the system into the more global core. Thus, I, my ISP, or my organization, might prepare an "expression of consent" that states that mail will not be accepted if it exceeds certain sizes, contains certain elements (such as attachments) or is of a "commercial" nature. If this expression can be accessed by arbitrary nodes, then either sending nodes or intermediate nodes would be able to determine what had been consented to and decide whether to originate or relay any particular message. A very simple version of such a system would be created if we were to adopt something like the "donotcall.gov" system which is used to block telemarketing calls in the US. 2. If systems that rely on "licenses to send" or recipient-issued tokens are deployed, then depending on the way these things are implemented, upstream nodes would be able to inspect the licenses and determine whether or not a particular message was, in fact, authorized. Depending on implementation choices, non-authorized messages could be either discarded, subjected to more or greater "spam-detection" inspections, or routed at lower quality of service. Consent based systems can have value on a "global" non-local basic even though they express the consent of "local" systems or users. bob wyman _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
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