[C310] [AD - Erik Kline] Re: AUTH48 [JM]: RFC 9033 <draft-ietf-6tisch-msf-18.txt> NOW AVAILABLE
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Subject: [C310] [AD - Erik Kline] Re: AUTH48 [JM]: RFC 9033 <draft-ietf-6tisch-msf-18.txt> NOW AVAILABLE
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Tengfei, Pascal, and *AD (Erik), * Erik, please review the newly added one-paragraph section in the Introduction (Section 1.2, Related Documents), and let us know if you approve of the addition. NEW: 1.2. Related Documents This specification uses messages and variables defined in IEEE Std 802.15.4-2015 [IEEE802154]. It is expected that those resources will remain in the future versions of IEEE Std 802.15.4; in which case, this specification also applies to those future versions. In the remainder of the document, we use [IEEE802154] to refer to IEEE Std 802.15.4-2015 as well as future versions of IEEE Std 802.15.4 that remain compatible. https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033.html#name-related-documents Tengfei and Pascal, thank you for your responses. We have updated the document with your feedback: https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033.txt https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033.pdf https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033.html https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033.xml https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033-diff.html (all changes) https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033-auth48diff.html (all AUTH48 changes) https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033-lastdiff.html (these changes) https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033-lastrfcdiff.html (these changes side by side) We will await further word from you and your coauthors regarding other AUTH48 changes and/or approval. Best regards, RFC Editor/jm On 4/21/21 10:15 PM, Tengfei Chang wrote: > Hi Jean, > > I replied inline: > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 12:32 AM Jean Mahoney <jmahoney@amsl.com > <mailto:jmahoney@amsl.com>> wrote: > > Tengfei, Mališa, Diego, Xavi, and Pascal, > > Thank you for your quick responses! We have updated the document > based on your feedback, and we have a few more questions below: > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033.txt > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033.txt> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033.pdf > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033.pdf> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033.html > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033.html> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033.xml > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033.xml> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033-lastrfcdiff.html > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033-lastrfcdiff.html> > (these changes side by side) > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033-auth48diff.html > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033-auth48diff.html> > (changes made during AUTH48) > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033-diff.html > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033-diff.html> (all > changes made to the text) > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033-xmldiff.html > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033-xmldiff.html> (all > changes made to the XML) > > > Tengfei, would you like to update your email address in the > document? It is currently tengfei.chang@inria.fr > <mailto:tengfei.chang@inria.fr>. > > > */TC: Thanks for pointing this out. The email will not be available in > a few months, could you change to tengfei.chang@gmail.com > <mailto:tengfei.chang@gmail.com> for me? Thanks! /* > > > > May we expand the 6TiSCH acronym in the abstract? > > Current: > This specification defines the 6TiSCH Minimal Scheduling Function > (MSF). > > Perhaps: > This specification defines the "IPv6 over the TSCH mode of > IEEE 802.15.4e" (6TiSCH) Minimal Scheduling Function (MSF). > > > */ TC: Yes, you may. /* > */ > /* > > */ OLD:/* > > */ This specification defines the 6TiSCH Minimal Scheduling > Function/* > > */ (MSF). /* > > */ > /* > > */NEW:/* > > */ This specification defines the "IPv6 over the TSCH mode of /* > > */ IEEE 802.15.4e" (6TiSCH) Minimal Scheduling Function > (MSF). /* > > In Section 5.1, the hyperlinked "Step 2" in the following sentence > goes to numbered item "2. When the value of NumCellsElapsed > reaches MAX_NUM_CELLS:" > > * Reset both NumCellsElapsed and NumCellsUsed to 0 and go to > Step 2. > > Should it instead go to Section 4.3 ("Step 2 - Receiving EBs")? If > the link is correct (go to #2), then perhaps it should be > rephrased as "restart #2"? > > * Reset both NumCellsElapsed and NumCellsUsed to 0 and > restart > #2. > > > */TC: Go to #2 is correct. Just to clarify, #2 indicates this > sentence: When the value of NumCellsElapsed reaches MAX_NUM_CELLS:/* > > */ OLD:/* > > */Reset both NumCellsElapsed and NumCellsUsed to 0 and go to/* > > */ #2. /* > > */ > /* > > */NEW:/* > > */ Reset both NumCellsElapsed and NumCellsUsed to 0 and > restart/* > > */ #2. /* > > May we move the following citation tag in Section 8 to improve > readability? > > Current: > If [IEEE802154] transmissions are observed ... > > Perhaps: > If transmissions that rely on [IEEE802154] are observed ... or > If transmissions that rely on LR-WPANs [IEEE802154] are > observed ... > > > */TC: Yes, you may. I think the first choice is good. IEEE802154 > already indicates it's for LR-WPANs./* > > */ OLD:/* > > */ If [IEEE802154] transmissions are observed .../* > > */ > /* > > */NEW:/* > > */ If transmissions that rely on [IEEE802154] are observed > ... /* > > > > And one more question inline marked with [JM] -- > > */ > /* > */TC: Sorry I missed that one. The comment 6) also pointed to the same > sentence and my response is nearly the same as JM suggested :-) /* > */Please use JM's suggestion here./* > > */OLD: /* > > */ The node receives a valid frame from > the parent. > The counter increments only when the > frame is a valid [IEEE802.15.4] frame. > /* > > */NEW:/* > > */The counter increments only when a valid frame > per [IEEE802.15.4] is received by the node from its parent. /* > > > > On 4/21/21 4:15 AM, Tengfei Chang wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> Thanks for the quick responses! >> >> Dear RFC editor, >> >> Thanks for editing the document! >> I have response each questions inline below starting with */TC: >> (in/* */bold and Italic) /* >> */ >> /* >> Please let me know if there are any further questions regarding >> to the document. >> Thanks! >> >> Tengfei >> >> On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 2:49 PM <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org >> <mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>> wrote: >> >> Authors, >> >> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve >> (as necessary) the following questions, which are also in the >> XML file. >> >> 1) <!-- [rfced] We note that the sortRefs attribute is >> missing in >> rfc element. Would you like the citations in the References >> sorted >> alphabetically or by first use in the document? >> --> >> >> */ TC: We would like the citations in the References sorted >> alphabetically. Thanks!/* >> >> >> 2) <!--[rfced] Mališa, do you prefer that your name appear as >> "Malisa Vucinic" or "Mališa Vučinić" in this document (and other >> documents in this cluster)? We note the latter appears on >> this page: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/person/Mali%C5%A1a%20Vu%C4%8Dini%C4%87 >> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/person/Mali%C5%A1a%20Vu%C4%8Dini%C4%87> >> --> >> >> */ TC: please refer to Malisa's response./* >> >> >> 3) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that >> appear >> in the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search >> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/search>. >> --> >> >> */ TC: please insert the following keywords, thanks!/* >> */ >> /* >> >> */TSCH, communication schedule, 6P/* >> >> >> 4) <!-- [rfced] Does the following improve the readability of >> the sentence? >> >> Current: >> In case of a slot to transmit or receive, a channel is >> assigned to the time slot. >> >> Perhaps: >> For time slots for transmitting or receiving, a channel is >> assigned to the time slot. >> --> >> >> */TC: Yes, please use the rephrased sentence: /* >> */ >> /* >> >> */OLD:/* >> >> */ In case of a slot to transmit or receive, a channel is/* >> >> */ assigned to the time slot. /* >> >> */ >> /* >> >> */NEW:/* >> >> */ For time slots for transmitting or receiving, a >> channel is/* >> >> */ assigned to the time slot. /* >> >> >> 5) <!-- [rfced] We are having difficulty parsing the following: >> >> Current: >> For interoperability purposes, the values of those parameters >> can be referred from Appendix A. >> >> Purhaps: >> For interoperability purposes, Appendix A provides guidance >> on calculating the values of those parameters. >> --> >> >> /*TC: Please apply the following changes. The parameters' values >> are not calculated but arbitrary values, which are defined in >> Appendix A. */ >> /*So that two different implementations of MSF can interoperate >> by agreeing on same parameters values.*/ >> >> /* >> */ >> >> /*OLD:*/ >> >> /* For interoperability purposes, the values of those >> parameters */ >> >> /* can be referred from Appendix A.*/ >> >> /* >> */ >> >> /*NEW:*/ >> >> /* For interoperability purposes, Appendix A provides >> the reference values of those parameters. */ >> >> >> 6) <!-- [rfced] Please consider rephrasing to make this more >> precise. >> --> >> >> */TC: It's rephrased as following./* >> >> */OLD: /* >> >> */ The node receives a valid frame >> from the parent. >> The counter increments only when >> the frame is a valid [IEEE802.15.4] frame. >> /* >> >> */NEW:/* >> >> */The counter increments, only when a valid >> [IEEE802.15.4] frame is received by the node form its >> parent. /* >> >> > [JM] We have incorporated the new text but have moved the > citation tag to improve readability. Please let us know if any > other changes are necessary. > > The counter increments only when a valid frame per [IEEE802154] > is received by the node from its parent. > > > Best regards, > > RFC Editor/jm > > >> 7) <!-- [rfced] We are having difficulty parsing this passage. >> Specifically, may the first sentence be rephrased as follows? >> And, in the later sentence, should "absolved" be "alleviated"? >> >> Current: >> The 6P traffic overhead using a larger value of >> MAX_NUM_CELLS could >> be reduced as well... The latency caused by slight changes >> of traffic >> load can be absolved by the additional scheduled cells. >> >> Perhaps: >> By using a larger value of MAX_NUM_CELLS, the 6P traffic >> overhead could >> be reduced as well... The latency caused by slight changes >> of traffic >> load can be alleviated by the additional scheduled cells. >> --> >> >> /*TC: The suggested sentence read good.*/ >> /* >> */ >> >> /* OLD:*/ >> >> /* The 6P traffic overhead using a larger value of >> MAX_NUM_CELLS could */ >> >> /* be reduced as well... The latency caused by slight >> changes of traffic */ >> >> /* load can be absolved by the additional scheduled >> cells.*/ >> >> /* >> */ >> >> /*NEW:*/ >> >> /* By using a larger value of MAX_NUM_CELLS, the 6P >> traffic overhead could */ >> >> /* be reduced as well... The latency caused by slight >> changes of traffic */ >> >> /* load can be alleviated by the additional scheduled >> cells. */ >> >> >> 8) <!-- [rfced] FYI, we have applied superscript formatting >> to the following. >> Please let us know if you would like to add a space on either >> side of the >> operators to improve readability. >> >> Current: >> ((2^MAXBE)-1)*MAXRETRIES*SLOTFRAME_LENGTH >> >> Perhaps: >> ((2^MAXBE) - 1) * MAXRETRIES * SLOTFRAME_LENGTH >> --> >> >> /*TC: We prefer add a space on */ */either side /*/* of the >> operators to improve readability.*/ >> >> /* >> */ >> >> /*OLD:*/ >> >> /*((2^MAXBE)-1)*MAXRETRIES*SLOTFRAME_LENGTH */ >> >> /* >> */ >> >> /*NEW: */ >> >> /* ((2^MAXBE) - 1) * MAXRETRIES * SLOTFRAME_LENGTH */ >> >> >> 9) <!--[rfced] FYI, we have updated this reference as >> follows, as the DOI >> provided in the original is not functional, and it seems your >> intention >> was to refer to IEEE 802.15.4-2015. (Please note that it was >> "Superseded by IEEE Std 802.15.4-2020" as detailed at the >> provided URL.) >> >> Please review and let us know any updates; we will follow up >> on this topic as this reference appears in several documents >> in this cluster (C310). >> >> Original: >> [IEEE802154] >> IEEE standard for Information Technology, "IEEE >> Std >> 802.15.4 Standard for Low-Rate Wireless >> Personal Area >> Networks (WPANs)", DOI 10.1109/IEEE >> P802.15.4-REVd/D01, >> <http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7460875/ >> <http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7460875/>>. >> >> Current: >> [IEEE802154] >> IEEE, "IEEE Standard for Low-Rate Wireless >> Networks", IEEE >> Standard 802.15.4-2015, DOI >> 10.1109/IEEESTD.2016.7460875, >> April 2016, >> <https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7460875 >> <https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7460875>>. >> --> >> >> /*TC: Thanks for updating the link. We prefer to use the IEEE >> 802.15.4-2015, which are referred during developing MSF.*/ >> >> >> 10) <!-- [rfced] In the appendix, the term "mote" is used >> instead of "node". >> Is this intentional? >> --> >> >> /*TC: No. Please replace "mote" by "node".*/ >> /* >> */ >> >> /*OLD: */ >> >> /*String s is replaced by the mote EUI-64 address. The >> characters of the string, c0 through c7, are the eight >> bytes of the EUI-64 address.*/ >> >> /*NEW: */ >> >> /*String s is replaced by the node EUI-64 address. The >> characters of the string, c0 through c7, are the eight >> bytes of the EUI-64 address.*/ >> >> /* >> */ >> >> /*OLD: */ >> >> /*The appropriate values of l_bit and r_bit could vary >> depending on the set of motes' EUI-64 address.*/ >> >> /*NEW: */ >> >> /*The appropriate values of l_bit and r_bit could vary >> depending on the set of nodes' EUI-64 address.*/ >> >> >> 11) <!-- [rfced] FYI, we have updated the formatting of the >> Contributors >> section to use <contact/> elements: >> >> Original: >> * Beshr Al Nahas (Chalmers University, beshr@chalmers.se >> <mailto:beshr@chalmers.se>) >> * Olaf Landsiedel (Chalmers University, olafl@chalmers.se >> <mailto:olafl@chalmers.se>) >> * Yasuyuki Tanaka (Inria-Paris, yasuyuki.tanaka@inria.fr >> <mailto:yasuyuki.tanaka@inria.fr>) >> >> Current: >> Beshr Al Nahas >> Chalmers University >> >> Email: beshr@chalmers.se <mailto:beshr@chalmers.se> >> >> >> Olaf Landsiedel >> Chalmers University >> >> Email: olafl@chalmers.se <mailto:olafl@chalmers.se> >> >> >> Yasuyuki Tanaka >> Inria-Paris >> >> Email: yasuyuki.tanaka@inria.fr >> <mailto:yasuyuki.tanaka@inria.fr> >> --> >> >> */TC: This looks good! 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Chang, Ed., M. Vucinic, X. Vilajosana, >> S. Duquennoy, D. Dujovne >> WG Chair(s) : Pascal Thubert, Thomas Watteyne >> Area Director(s) : Erik Kline, Éric Vyncke >> >> >> >> -- >> —————————————————————————————————————— >> Stay healthy, stay optimistic! >> >> Dr. Tengfei, Chang >> Postdoctoral Research Engineer, Inria >> >> www.tchang.org/ <http://www.tchang.org/> >> —————————————————————————————————————— >> > > > -- > —————————————————————————————————————— > Stay healthy, stay optimistic! > > Dr. Tengfei, Chang > Postdoctoral Research Engineer, Inria > > www.tchang.org/ <http://www.tchang.org/> > ——————————————————————————————————————
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- Re: [C310] AUTH48 [JM]: RFC 9033 <draft-ietf-6tis… rfc-editor
- Re: [C310] AUTH48 [JM]: RFC 9033 <draft-ietf-6tis… Mališa Vučinić
- Re: [C310] AUTH48 [JM]: RFC 9033 <draft-ietf-6tis… Prof. Diego Dujovne
- Re: [C310] AUTH48 [JM]: RFC 9033 <draft-ietf-6tis… Xavi Vilajosana Guillen
- Re: [C310] AUTH48 [JM]: RFC 9033 <draft-ietf-6tis… Tengfei Chang
- Re: [C310] AUTH48 [JM]: RFC 9033 <draft-ietf-6tis… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [C310] AUTH48 [JM]: RFC 9033 <draft-ietf-6tis… Jean Mahoney
- Re: [C310] AUTH48 [JM]: RFC 9033 <draft-ietf-6tis… Jean Mahoney
- Re: [C310] AUTH48 [JM]: RFC 9033 <draft-ietf-6tis… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [C310] AUTH48 [JM]: RFC 9033 <draft-ietf-6tis… Tengfei Chang
- [C310] [AD - Erik Kline] Re: AUTH48 [JM]: RFC 903… Jean Mahoney
- Re: [C310] [AD - Erik Kline] Re: AUTH48 [JM]: RFC… Prof. Diego Dujovne
- Re: [C310] [AD - Erik Kline] Re: AUTH48 [JM]: RFC… Mališa Vučinić
- Re: [C310] [AD - Erik Kline] Re: AUTH48 [JM]: RFC… Jean Mahoney
- Re: [C310] [AD - Erik Kline] Re: AUTH48 [JM]: RFC… Prof. Diego Dujovne
- Re: [C310] [AD - Erik Kline] Re: AUTH48 [JM]: RFC… Jean Mahoney
- Re: [C310] [AD - Erik Kline] Re: AUTH48 [JM]: RFC… Tengfei Chang
- Re: [C310] [AD - Erik Kline] Re: AUTH48 [JM]: RFC… Xavi Vilajosana Guillen
- Re: [C310] [AD - Erik Kline] Re: AUTH48 [JM]: RFC… Simon Duquennoy
- Re: [C310] [AD - Erik Kline] Re: AUTH48 [JM]: RFC… Erik Kline
- Re: [C310] [AD - Erik Kline] Re: AUTH48 [JM]: RFC… Jean Mahoney
- Re: [C310] [AD - Erik Kline] Re: AUTH48 [JM]: RFC… Jean Mahoney