Re: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents
"Ong, Lyndon" <Lyong@Ciena.com> Tue, 16 October 2012 15:10 UTC
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From: "Ong, Lyndon" <Lyong@Ciena.com>
To: Dieter Beller <Dieter.Beller@alcatel-lucent.com>, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>, CCAMP <ccamp@ietf.org>, Deborah Brungard <dbrungard@att.com>
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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents
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Hi Deborah, Lou, I think Dieter makes some good arguments for making the documents Experimental. We could use more feedback on any implementation and deployment, what dataplane conditions are needed to make this work, impact (especially on routing traffic), etc. Cheers, Lyndon From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org> [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dieter Beller Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 2:40 PM To: Lou Berger; CCAMP; Deborah Brungard Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Input on publication track of WSON solutions documents Hi Deborah, Lou, all, my answers in short: a. no b. no for all c. Experimental for all Please find some reasoning in-line below. Thanks, Dieter On 02.10.2012 16:30, Lou Berger wrote: CCAMP, The WG has several WSON-related drafts including: 1. draft-ietf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode 2. draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te 3. draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode 4. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf 5. draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling These drafts are currently identified as being on the Standards Track. The WG typically requests Standards Track publication of documents that fill/fix a clear protocol function and/or have strong WG support. Given the scope of this work as well as the time the drafts have been active in the WG, we'd like to solicit the WG's input on the publication track to be requested. Once the WG reaches consensus on these drafts (as indicated by a *future* WG last call), Standards Track publication can be requested or these drafts could also be published via a non-Standards Track, see section 4.2 of RFC2026 for all options. Please let us know (preferably by responding on the WG list) if you: a. Support targeting all of these documents for Standards Track publication? [yes/no] no - the major reason is that optical transponders from different vendors are typically not interoperable today. As long as data plane interoperability does not exist, Standards Track does IMHO not really make sense for the WSON documents in question. b. If no, support targeting some of these documents for Standards Track publication? [1, yes/no 2, yes/no 3, yes/no 4, yes/no 5, yes/no] no for all. c. If no to any of the above, which status do you think appropriate? [Experimental or Informational] Experimental status for all Looking at the guidelines in http://www.ietf.org/iesg/informational-vs-experimental.html guideline 4 is probably the most relevant one for these documents: Guideline 4: If the IETF may publish something based on this on the standards track once we know how well this one works, it's Experimental. This is the typical case of not being able to decide which protocol is "better" before we have experience of dealing with them from a stable specification. d. Finally, we are most interested in hearing from anyone who has, or is planning an implementation based on the WG drafts. We understand that some may not want this information published, so please let any of the chairs and/or ADs know (Lou, Deborah, Adrian or Stewart), and they will publish the information without any personal or company identification. Keep in mind that this mail is *not* starting a WG last call on any of the documents identified above. We'd like input on intended publication status prior to any last call discussion. Lou and Deborah _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org<mailto:CCAMP@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp -- [cid:image001.jpg@01CDAA13.B8BCE4A0] DIETER BELLER ALCATEL-LUCENT DEUTSCHLAND AG PROJECT MANAGER ASON/GMPLS CONTROL PLANE NETWORKS GROUP, OPTICS DIVISION TERRESTRIAL OPTICS UNIT Lorenzstrasse 10 70435 Stuttgart, Germany T: +49 711 821 43125 M: +49 175 7266874 Dieter.Beller@alcatel-lucent.com<mailto:Dieter.Beller@alcatel-lucent.com> Alcatel-Lucent Deutschland AG Domicile of the Company: Stuttgart · Local Court Stuttgart HRB 4026 Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Michael Oppenhoff Board of Management: Wilhelm Dresselhaus (Chairman) · Hans-Jörg Daub · Dr. Rainer Fechner · Andreas Gehe
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