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RE: Proposed response to OIF on OSPF ENNI

"Ong, Lyndon" <Lyong@Ciena.com> Tue, 25 July 2006 22:28 UTC

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I confess it was all rigged, John.  Little midgets were inside the
equipment plugging
fibers here and there and typing RSVP messages into mini keypads.

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Subject: RE: Proposed response to OIF on OSPF ENNI


 

	-----Original Message-----
	From: Ong, Lyndon [mailto:Lyong@Ciena.com] 
	Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:39 PM
	To: Drake, John E; ccamp@ops.ietf.org
	Subject: RE: Proposed response to OIF on OSPF ENNI
	
	
	Hi John,
	 
	If you wish to discuss how the tests were carried out, you can
talk to the 
	7 major carriers that provided lab sites and the 13 router and
switch vendors that participated
	in the 2005 demo. 
	 
	JD:  Just as I suspected 
	 
	In what sense does IETF use the term interoperability test? 
	 
	JD:  You know, the stuff required to advance to proposed
standard
	 
	Is there an RFC on this? 
	 
	JD:  I'm sure.
	 
	I was unaware that IETF ran interoperability tests. 
	 
	JD:  I didn't say it did, and I don't know if it does. 
	 
	Cheers,
	 
	Lyndon

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	Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:28 PM
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	Subject: RE: Proposed response to OIF on OSPF ENNI
	
	
	 Snipped
	 
	 Regarding Topic 2:

		 

		 

		Again I ask, wouldn't it be better to look at this
document which has been implemented by many vendors, and successfully
interoperability tested many times over many years to see what can be
leveraged instead of starting from scratch? 

		 

		JD:  I noticed that Jonathan has put in this plug
several times.  I am wondering whether these events are truly
interoperability tests, in the sense that the IETF uses the term, or
rather rigged demos?  I seem to remember that the OIF characterized
itself as a marketing organization.  

		
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