Re: [CFRG] please use real names (was: Re: Small subgroup question for draft-irtf-cfrg-hash-to-curve)

"Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL" <uri@ll.mit.edu> Sun, 11 April 2021 14:07 UTC

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From: "Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL" <uri@ll.mit.edu>
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Thread-Topic: [CFRG] please use real names (was: Re: Small subgroup question for draft-irtf-cfrg-hash-to-curve)
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Subject: Re: [CFRG] please use real names (was: Re: Small subgroup question for draft-irtf-cfrg-hash-to-curve)
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>    I don't care if I'm getting email from the Queen of Sheba, as long as she has
>    something interesting to say about crypto.

True. 

But if I notice that I "don't get" what the author seems to be saying, the amount of time and efforts I'm likely to spend trying to comprehend that post is directly proportional to the respect I already have for this author. So, Queen of Sheba's emails are much likelier to end up in a digital trashcan, than those from somebody "known". 

Just sayin'  ;-)