Re: [clue] Participant info/type followup

[Paul Kyzivat <[e-mail]>]

On 3/18/14 11:18 PM, Christian Groves wrote:
> Hello Paul,
>
> "How" they differ is given by the example bullets below the sentence. If
> you want something more normative we could remove the "For example".

Yeah, I don't believe in specification by example. :-)

IMO it is a bit dicey to base this distinction on the type of capture.

I'm more comfortable with an explicit syntactic indication of the 
distinction, such as proposed by Roberta.

	Thanks,
	Paul

> Regards, Christian
>
> On 7/03/2014 4:46 AM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
>> On 3/6/14 5:30 PM, Christian Groves wrote:
>>> Hello Paul,
>>>
>>> The text says media type and presentation attribute. Is that the
>>> relationship you're talking about?
>>
>> "How the generated content relates to the entity described in the
>> participant info is dependent on media type and and the presentation
>> attribute."
>>
>> I take that to mean that the relationship may be different for
>> presentation streams than non-presentation streams. But it doesn't say
>> *how* they differ.
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>     Paul
>>
>>> Regards, Christian
>>>
>>> On 7/03/2014 4:20 AM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
>>>> Christian,
>>>>
>>>> I've read the quoted text several times, and I cannot figure out how
>>>> to *derive* your example conclusions from it. The text says the
>>>> relationship is dependent on the presentation attribute, but not how.
>>>>
>>>> AFAICT I could make a new definition where the a participant attached
>>>> to a presentation capture means that the participant is shown in the
>>>> presentation, and that would be equally compatible with the text.
>>>>
>>>> ISTM that more text is required to actually specify the relationships.
>>>>
>>>>     Thanks,
>>>>     Paul
>>>>
>>>> On 3/6/14 2:05 PM, Christian Groves wrote:
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> To follow up on Jonathon's comments on participant info/type and the
>>>>> semantics and particularly how it relates to a presentation. Here's a
>>>>> first stab at some text to stimulate some discussions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "The participant info attribute allows a provider to associate
>>>>> participant information with the capture source. When used in an
>>>>> individual capture it indicates that the captured content (e.g.
>>>>> video/audio/text etc.) as opposed to the actual media streams is
>>>>> generated from the entity described. How the generated content relates
>>>>> to the entity described in the participant info is dependent on media
>>>>> type and and the presentation attribute.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example:
>>>>> - a video capture with participant info would indicate that the video
>>>>> contains a picture of the entity associated with the information
>>>>> provided.
>>>>> - a video capture with participant info and the presentation attribute
>>>>> would indicate that the presentation video is associated with the
>>>>> participant but could contain any video content.
>>>>> - a text capture with participant info would indicate that the text is
>>>>> generated from the actual participant.
>>>>> - a text capture with participant info and the presentation attribute
>>>>> would indicate that the text is associated with the participant but
>>>>> could contain any text content."
>>>>>
>>>>> Comments?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Christian
>>>>>
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