Re: [clue] Participant info/type followup
Christian Groves <Christian.Groves@nteczone.com> Wed, 19 March 2014 03:19 UTC
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Subject: Re: [clue] Participant info/type followup
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Hello Paul, "How" they differ is given by the example bullets below the sentence. If you want something more normative we could remove the "For example". Regards, Christian On 7/03/2014 4:46 AM, Paul Kyzivat wrote: > On 3/6/14 5:30 PM, Christian Groves wrote: >> Hello Paul, >> >> The text says media type and presentation attribute. Is that the >> relationship you're talking about? > > "How the generated content relates to the entity described in the > participant info is dependent on media type and and the presentation > attribute." > > I take that to mean that the relationship may be different for > presentation streams than non-presentation streams. But it doesn't say > *how* they differ. > > Thanks, > Paul > >> Regards, Christian >> >> On 7/03/2014 4:20 AM, Paul Kyzivat wrote: >>> Christian, >>> >>> I've read the quoted text several times, and I cannot figure out how >>> to *derive* your example conclusions from it. The text says the >>> relationship is dependent on the presentation attribute, but not how. >>> >>> AFAICT I could make a new definition where the a participant attached >>> to a presentation capture means that the participant is shown in the >>> presentation, and that would be equally compatible with the text. >>> >>> ISTM that more text is required to actually specify the relationships. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Paul >>> >>> On 3/6/14 2:05 PM, Christian Groves wrote: >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> To follow up on Jonathon's comments on participant info/type and the >>>> semantics and particularly how it relates to a presentation. Here's a >>>> first stab at some text to stimulate some discussions. >>>> >>>> >>>> "The participant info attribute allows a provider to associate >>>> participant information with the capture source. When used in an >>>> individual capture it indicates that the captured content (e.g. >>>> video/audio/text etc.) as opposed to the actual media streams is >>>> generated from the entity described. How the generated content relates >>>> to the entity described in the participant info is dependent on media >>>> type and and the presentation attribute. >>>> >>>> For example: >>>> - a video capture with participant info would indicate that the video >>>> contains a picture of the entity associated with the information >>>> provided. >>>> - a video capture with participant info and the presentation attribute >>>> would indicate that the presentation video is associated with the >>>> participant but could contain any video content. >>>> - a text capture with participant info would indicate that the text is >>>> generated from the actual participant. >>>> - a text capture with participant info and the presentation attribute >>>> would indicate that the text is associated with the participant but >>>> could contain any text content." >>>> >>>> Comments? >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, Christian >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> clue mailing list >>>> clue@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/clue >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> clue mailing list >>> clue@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/clue >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> clue mailing list >> clue@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/clue >> > >
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- Re: [clue] Participant info/type followup Christian Groves
- Re: [clue] Participant info/type followup Christian Groves
- Re: [clue] Participant info/type followup Paul Kyzivat
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- Re: [clue] Participant info/type followup Christian Groves
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- Re: [clue] Participant info/type followup Christian Groves