Re: [Detnet] [mpls] draft-decraene-mpls-slid-encoded-entropy-label-id (was RE: Please review the PALS/MPLS/DetNet Joint Session minutes)

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Subject: Re: [Detnet] [mpls] draft-decraene-mpls-slid-encoded-entropy-label-id (was RE: Please review the PALS/MPLS/DetNet Joint Session minutes)
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From: Tony Li <tony1athome@gmail.com> On Behalf Of Tony Li
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 4:08 PM

> [Kireeti]: suggest attending talk by Tony on danger of reusing ELI before making any decision.
https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-113-pals

Done. The talk raised no "danger of reusing ELI" for draft draft-decraene-mpls-slid-encoded-entropy-label-id; quite the contrary.
I quote: "claims of backward compatibility apply to draft-decraene-mpls-slid-encoded-entropy-label-id-03". With more details on slide 18
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/113/materials/slides-113-mpls-05-policy-on-mpls-special-purpose-labels-reuse-00


Yes, the issue with this proposal is that it has no space for in-stack data and not enough space for possible expansion of additional actions.

[Bruno] There are two steps:
- This proposal allows for carrying 8 Indicators and a slice ID while been backward compatible with egress LER hance providing faster deployment with incremental benefit.
- If more in-stack data is required the proposal is extensible (e.g. draft-jags-mpls-ext-hdr) but at the cost of losing the above benefits for the ASes & uses-cases requiring more than 8 Indicators per AS or In-Stack Data.
So we can have both worlds: simple first step and extensibility for those who need it.

Independently, we also/already have the post stack data option to carry ancillary data, which may limit the need for In-Stack data extension.

--Bruno

Tony




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