Re: [dhcwg] DHCPv6 Failover -- LAST CHANCE
Kim Kinnear <kkinnear@cisco.com> Wed, 07 September 2016 18:47 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] DHCPv6 Failover -- LAST CHANCE
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Folks, I don't have any idea *how many* detailed reviews are necessary to move a draft forward, since there isn't any fixed number of which I am aware. I would *love* more serious, detailed reviews. Do we have to have more to move it forward? I don't know for sure, since I'm not the person making the call to move it forward. I *do* know that on the prior WGLC, we had *only* serious, detailed (i.e., many pages of comments) technical reviews. We had few (if I recall correctly, none) of the "I read it and I think this is important" responses. While I am not the decision maker, my experience from working with at least the DHC WG over the years is that to move a draft through WGLC, one needs to have several really detailed technical reviews, and one *also* has to have a enough people say that this work is not only important but largely correct. There is always a range of "depth" of reviews. I was in no way saying that people shouldn't review it in detail. I was saying that it looked to me like that thing that we were lacking before was the general groundswell of opinion that this was worthy work to spend time on and that it was generally correct. If you (any of you) would be willing to do a detailed review -- of any level -- have at it! That would be great!!! That said, we *also* need people to do whatever level of review they can do and to say that they have done that and that they think this draft is worthwhile and even important to push to an RFC. We have had a few folks chime in and say this, and I want to thank everyone who has read the draft and responded. Have *enough* people done that now for it to pass WGLC? I doubt it -- I think we still have a good ways to go. But that is just my guess. Thanks - Kim > On Sep 7, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote: > > Kim specifically stated that it had had enough detailed review at this point. >
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