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Re: [dhcwg] DHCPv6 Failover -- LAST CHANCE

神明達哉 <jinmei@wide.ad.jp> Fri, 02 September 2016 20:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] DHCPv6 Failover -- LAST CHANCE
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At Fri, 2 Sep 2016 15:23:13 -0400,
Kim Kinnear <kkinnear@cisco.com> wrote:

> We have some detailed technical reviews.  What we *really* need now
> are people to just read it and say:
>
>   "I think this draft should move forward".
>
> That's all you have to do.  Any review would be nice, but we really
> just need people to read it and send in email that says "move this
> forward".

I feel sorry that I simply couldn't find time to read this big
document and provide useful feedback, but I also feel nervous by
seeing this action...it's hard to believe that if someone reads this
size of complicated technical document and can just say "it should
move forward".  Even after getting reviews and revised, it's quite
likely for every new reader to find at least one or a few non-trivial
issues.  So, if the only response to the call is just "move forward",
I wonder if it's really a careful read.  And, now, if we move forward
just by counting a certain number of 'yes', does that mean something?
If we think we've already got sufficient level of technical reviews,
isn't it itself enough to move forward (to which I wouldn't be
opposed)?  If not, counting more simple "move forward" responses just
as a prerequisite for moving forward doesn't seem to be a good way to
move forward.

Just my two cents.  Again, I'm sorry I cannot be more productive...

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JINMEI, Tatuya

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