Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-05.txt
Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Tue, 10 February 2004 16:12 UTC
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Cc: dhcwg@ietf.org, Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
Subject: Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-05.txt
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 10:07:24 -0600
To: Margaret Wasserman <margaret@thingmagic.com>
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On Feb 9, 2004, at 10:19 PM, Margaret Wasserman wrote: > What if the protocols are not different between v4 and v6? I don't > know much > about NIS, but the DNS and SNTP protocols (for example) are not > different > between IPv4 and IPv6, nor are most other application protocols. If we accept Harald's idea that the client should get its configuration from the DHCPv6 server and not the DHCPv6 server, then I think the simplest rule is to say that if the DHCPv6 server sends IPv4 addresses for a service expressed as IPv6 addresses, then those addresses are the ones that the DHCP client should prefer, and it should discard any addresses it receives for the same service through DHCPv4. For the same service means what it says. DNS is the same service whether the transport is IPv4 or IPv6. By which I mean, the payload being sent over the transport is the same in either case - all that differs is the transport. Generally speaking, the application ought not to know - the DHCP client should take care of it. What I think maybe you're really pointing out here is that this requires (a) that we specify which service options refer to the same service between DHCPv4 and DHCPv6 and that (b) dual-stack V4+V6 hosts need to have their DHCPv4 and DHCPv6 clients communicating in some probably unspecifiable way, and (c) applications need to get this information from the DHCP clients using some API that hasn't been defined. What we have done in the past (with DHCPv4) is to not specify these things, and leave them to the implementor. So the DHCPv4 client on a Unix machine typically does things like run route(1) to set up routes and hack /etc/resolv.conf to set up name service, and most of the options are never actually used. We have talked about specifying an API, and I think this is actually a good idea (not everyone agrees, of course!). We shied away from specifying it in RFC3315 because we knew that if we tried, it would never get out the door. Maybe we need to do that sooner rather than later. _______________________________________________ dhcwg mailing list dhcwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dhcwg
- [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-05.txt Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Ted Lemon
- RE: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Bernie Volz
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Robert Elz
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Vijayabhaskar A K
- RE: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Bernie Volz
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Tim Chown
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- RE: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Stig Venaas
- RE: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Ted Lemon
- RE: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- RE: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Mark Stapp
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- RE: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Robert Elz
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Robert Elz
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Stig Venaas
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Vijayabhaskar A K
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Stig Venaas
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Robert Elz
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Vijayabhaskar A K
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-nisconfig-0… Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
- [dhcwg] Dual-stack hosts using DHCP (was Re: [dhc… Ralph Droms
- Re: [dhcwg] Dual-stack hosts using DHCP (was Re: … Greg Daley
- RE: [dhcwg] Dual-stack hosts using DHCP (was Re: … Bernie Volz
- Re: [dhcwg] Dual-stack hosts using DHCP (was Re: … Tim Chown
- Re: [dhcwg] Dual-stack hosts using DHCP (was Re: … Stig Venaas