Re: [Diversity] Value and respect

S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Sun, 12 June 2016 20:45 UTC

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Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 13:08:37 -0700
To: John Leslie <john@jlc.net>, diversity@ietf.org
From: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>
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Subject: Re: [Diversity] Value and respect
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Hi John,

[changed to diversity@ietf.org]

At 16:59 11-06-2016, John Leslie wrote:
>    Keep in mind that for many, English isn't their first language.
>
>    "Discussion" being "completely OK" doesn't adequately hint that
>particular expressions of a personal opinion are NOT OK.

A person who can read a message in English without difficulty does 
not necessarily understand everything which has been written the same 
way as a person from the same country as the author of the message would.

The second point of the text quoted above could be classified under 
freedom of speech.  Is it okay to make an argument if that argument 
would be viewed as offensive?  If a person  provides a hint about 
what not to say, it may happen that a person who does not usually 
speak English  will not understand the hint.  If a person clearly 
explains what should not be said, it will be described as censorship.

Sometimes, it is useful to have a discussion to identify the 
issues.  Having a lengthy open-ended discussion on ietf@ietf.org 
about sensitive topics is not a good idea.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy