Re: [Diversity] Consideration for participation

Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com> Thu, 16 June 2016 02:39 UTC

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From: Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com>
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On 6/15/16 5:55 PM, S Moonesamy wrote:
> I'll quote [3] an email from 2012: "One of the great aspects of the
> IETF's openness is that anyone can participate for the cost of an
> Internet connection".  I could have made that argument in response to
> the issue which was raised [5].  I would be ignoring the issue by doing
> that.

I'm unclear on the relevance of *any* of this to the points I
raised.  But I'll tell you one thing for sure:  I am disturbed
by the extent to which we're an organization in which someone
can participate meaningfully while being remote when we're
talking about Singapore and the extent we're an organization
in which someone needs to attend meetings to build relationships
and move work forward the rest of the time.  Seriously, this
needs to stop.

Be that as it may, my point remains unaddressed by anything
you've written:  the extent to which we allow barriers to
participation by certain demographic groups to stand, we
are not open and we do not have our participants rise and
fall on the quality of their contributions alone.

Melinda