Re: [Diversity] Consideration for participation

S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Sun, 19 June 2016 13:29 UTC

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Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 06:25:38 -0700
To: Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>
From: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>
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Hi Abdussalam,
At 04:20 19-06-2016, Abdussalam Baryun wrote:
>I did not understand some lines in both conversation, and sorry if 
>it is long email,

There is a message from Spencer Dawkins at 
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/diversity/current/msg00808.html 
The last part of that message might explain the discussions.

>I think I understood the issue raised, that a participant with low 
>technical contribution should not be equally considered as a 
>participant with high quality, or what is argued is when we decide 
>to go to a city (ex. singapore or paris, etc.) if few high quality
>contributors cannot meet then we should change, or when we decide to 
>go to a city with majority agreeing but that majority are low 
>quality contributors, then we should not go to that city. In my 
>opinion, we should not stop equality and openess, because what makes

My comment was about whether it would be appropriate of me to tell a 
person who cannot attend a meeting because he/she would not be 
treated the same as some other group of persons that he/she can 
participate remotely.  I do not believe that it is appropriate.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy