Re: [Diversity] Moving to meeting attendance NOT required (was: Re: Consideration for participation)

Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> Sun, 19 June 2016 11:31 UTC

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From: Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 13:31:45 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Diversity] Moving to meeting attendance NOT required (was: Re: Consideration for participation)
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There is no doubt that being in meetings is critical for the organisation.
Meetings is very important, so choosing the venue is important as well. The
issue is who are attending the meeting (new users, new place, et.) can make
it more important.

AB

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <
spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, Dave,
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 5:09 AM, Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> wrote:
>
>> On 6/15/2016 10:39 PM, Melinda Shore wrote:
>>
>>> I am disturbed
>>> by the extent to which we're an organization in which someone
>>> can participate meaningfully while being remote when we're
>>> talking about Singapore and the extent we're an organization
>>> in which someone needs to attend meetings to build relationships
>>> and move work forward the rest of the time.  Seriously, this
>>> needs to stop.
>>>
>>
>>
>> If we made that stop, what would things look like?  I think we do not
>> have a detailed, shared description of the alternative environment that
>> would exist.  Most folk probably have their own sense of what it might be,
>> but we're missing s shared specification.
>>
>> Similarly, how to we get there?  What steps do we need to take, to move
>> to this better environment?
>
>
> I'm not the Melinda Whisperer, but I thought Melinda meant inconsistency
> between discussions about whether being in Singapore in person is critical,
> versus discussions about whether being at any meeting in general in person
> is critical.
>
> But she can correct me if I misthought.
>
> Spencer
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