Re: [dns-privacy] [Doh] [DNSOP] New: draft-bertola-bcp-doh-clients

Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> Tue, 12 March 2019 15:44 UTC

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From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
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Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] [Doh] [DNSOP] New: draft-bertola-bcp-doh-clients
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On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 09:59:11AM +0530,
 nalini elkins <nalini.elkins@e-dco.com> wrote 
 a message of 231 lines which said:

> Companies also (validly, in my opinion) wish to know if their
> employees are going to fantasyfootballgame.com while they are
> supposedly doing work and of course, other sites which people should
> not be going to during work time.  If I am paying someone, I expect
> them to do work that I wish them to do.

Not all companies work that way. Some evaluate the work done by the
results, not by the time spent at the desk. Please let's not discuss
IETF protocols while assuming that all companies are the same, and
that we have to endorse all their policies.