Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-opportunistic-adotq
Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> Tue, 23 March 2021 22:32 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-opportunistic-adotq
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, Jim Reid wrote: >> On 23 Mar 2021, at 21:20, Ben Schwartz <bemasc=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >> >> I think there's a miscommunication here. The proposals here are about how a TLD operator can tell a **recursive resolver** what encrypted DNS server to use, exactly like an NS record. This is not suggesting any change to stub resolver behavior. > > Ben, I was referring to recursive resolver behaviour, not stubs. The authoritative server expresses where to find its nameservers via its parent. This is not different. I guess you feel this is different because instead of publishing NS and A records about itself, it can now point to something that is not a NS or A record. But this is not really different if the parent can add NS/A records anyway. eg an SVCB record that states "do DoT at 1.2.3.4" is the same as adding a NS record like: example.com. IN NS ns1.example.com. example.com. IN NS xn--dot.example.com. ns1.example.com IN A 1.2.3.5 xn--dot.example.com IN A 1.2.3.4 Except that now legacy servers also contact the DoT server, where as with SVCB or any other kind of known _prefix, the DoT server does not have to also be a regular nameserver. So what is it that you are exactly objecting to? The syntax or the capability? Paul
- [dns-privacy] next steps for draft-opportunistic-… Peter van Dijk
- Re: [dns-privacy] next steps for draft-opportunis… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Brian Haberman
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Jim Reid
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Bill Woodcock
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Paul Wouters
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Jim Reid
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Jim Reid
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Jim Reid
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Rob Sayre
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Paul Wouters
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Jim Reid
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Rob Sayre
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Paul Wouters
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Bill Woodcock
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Jim Reid
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Bill Woodcock
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Jim Reid
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Bill Woodcock
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Rob Sayre
- Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-oppo… Hollenbeck, Scott