Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-opportunistic-adotq

Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> Tue, 23 March 2021 22:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dns-privacy] [Ext] next steps for draft-opportunistic-adotq
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, Jim Reid wrote:

>> On 23 Mar 2021, at 21:20, Ben Schwartz <bemasc=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>
>> I think there's a miscommunication here.  The proposals here are about how a TLD operator can tell a **recursive resolver** what encrypted DNS server to use, exactly like an NS record.  This is not suggesting any change to stub resolver behavior.
>
> Ben, I was referring to recursive resolver behaviour, not stubs.

The authoritative server expresses where to find its nameservers via its parent.

This is not different. I guess you feel this is different because instead
of publishing NS and A records about itself, it can now point to something
that is not a NS or A record. But this is not really different if the
parent can add NS/A records anyway.

eg an SVCB record that states "do DoT at 1.2.3.4" is the same
as adding a NS record like:

example.com.		IN	NS	ns1.example.com.
example.com.		IN	NS	xn--dot.example.com.
ns1.example.com		IN	A	1.2.3.5
xn--dot.example.com	IN	A	1.2.3.4

Except that now legacy servers also contact the DoT server, where as
with SVCB or any other kind of known _prefix, the DoT server does not
have to also be a regular nameserver.

So what is it that you are exactly objecting to? The syntax or the capability?

Paul