Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period end Mar 29th
Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Wed, 09 March 2011 22:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period end Mar 29th
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In message <4D778C86.4020105@ogud.com>, Olafur Gudmundsson writes: > <hat="RFC3658-editor"> > > On 09/03/2011 8:30 AM, Scott Schmit wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 08:32:05PM +0000, Tony Finch wrote dnsext: > >> On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, Roy Arends wrote: > >>> > >>> D. Motivation for the new RRTYPE application? > >>> > >>> To allow a copy of the DS RRset [RFC4034] to be published > >>> in the child zone, which is used to update the parent DS RRset. > >>> It is expected that this will allow the rollover of a key signi > ng > >>> key to be automated. > >> > >> Why not just use the child zone's SEP DNSKEY RRs for this purpose? > > > > I'm inclined to agree with this, but even if it's decided that the > > DNSKEY RRs aren't sufficient, why not just use DS on the client side? I > > see that RFC 3658 forbids it, but I'm not sure I understand why. We > > don't have CNS in addition to NS, so why should DS be different? I can > > understand that DS must be ignored by a client unless it's signed by the > > parent, but if that check doesn't already exist, we're already in > > trouble. > > Using SEP bits in DNSKEY records does not work when a zone wants to > retire an algorithm, the DS MUST be removed before the corresponding > DNSKEY record is removed. RFC 5011 really doesn't work for trust anchors. We should do something similar with DNSKEY but add <START> <END> <POLL> fields to the front. However this is not the thread to do this on. Mark -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
- [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period end … Roy Arends
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Tony Finch
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … George Barwood
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Miek Gieben
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Jelte Jansen
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … George Barwood
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Miek Gieben
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … George Barwood
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Scott Schmit
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … George Barwood
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Tony Finch
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Tony Finch
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Matthew Pounsett
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Miek Gieben
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Paul Wouters
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Mark Andrews
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Mark Andrews
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Stephan Lagerholm
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Mark Andrews
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … George Barwood
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Samuel Weiler
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Stephan Lagerholm
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Mark Andrews
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Stephan Lagerholm
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Stephan Lagerholm
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Mark Andrews
- Re: [dnsext] CDS RRTYPE review - Comments period … Roy Arends