Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTTP in dnsop?
Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> Sun, 20 December 2015 22:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTTP in dnsop?
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On Sunday, December 20, 2015 10:03:58 PM Mark Delany wrote: > > > And since shane-review states: > > > "This memo reviews the possible approaches..." > > > > > > I take it to mean that shane-review could encompass implementations > > > like dpriv that imply or propose out-of-order. If that is the case ... > > > > no. > > Then I'd like to suggest a "yes" for this document. > > Pipeline stalling due to forced in-order queries/responses is quite a > performance limitation and some implementations could readily provide > out-of-order. this document proposes that http be used to proxy dns. dns already allows out of order response processing, and tcp/53 initators already have to cope with out of order responses when they occur. what, precisely, do you think that a document that only describes HTTP initiators which are also DNS (tcp/53 and udp/53) responders, has to say about the possibility of future out-of- order HTTP processing? to me, that's future work. meaning, any HTTP initiator who wants out of order response processing will have to negotiate for it (see mogul's 2001 RID draft) and will then have new responsibilities for matching up the out of order HTTP responses with then-outstanding HTTP requests. i can't imagine what to say about it in today's world which allows pipelining in HTTP. please suggest text? -- P Vixie
- [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTTP in… Shane Kerr
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Robert Edmonds
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Shumon Huque
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Shane Kerr
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Mark Delany
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Mark Delany
- [DNSOP] "anything goes" (was Re: Should we try to… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] "anything goes" (was Re: Should we tr… joel jaeggli
- Re: [DNSOP] "anything goes" (was Re: Should we tr… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] "anything goes" (was Re: Should we tr… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Mark Delany
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Mark Delany
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] "anything goes" (was Re: Should we tr… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Should we try to work on DNS over HTT… Tony Finch